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Jones played into his 4th year without the extension. IIRC, Murray got a new deal in place of the option, but the Card's brass were VERY slow and methodical about it. There was a stink about language in the contract concerning mandatory film study time because apparently Kyler is a huge gamer. It's like they really didn't want to do it, however they felt obligated because Murray was the #1 overall pick and didn't want to give up on him despite lackluster results. Sound familiar?

Every time I think about Bryce's option, Murray is the dude that pops into my mind too (also Daniel Jones). If Tepper doesn't want mediocrity, then why sign a QB whose ceiling is mediocre? Heck a strong rushing attack and elite defense with weak QB play only got the Bears a single title in the mid 80's where our defense is no '85 Bears and Dowdle ain't Walter Peyton. Our recipe for success right now will win some games, but it's not a long term playoff winning scheme. Why? There will be games where our QB is asked to put the game on his shoulders and Bryce isn't that dude.

Mendoza better not become a Saint. I'd hate to see that dude twice a year. He's that dude.

What people fail to understand is Lance had a college career that lasted about as long as teenage boys first intercourse. To say he was raw was an understatement. So much so that even a QB whisperer had a difficult time molding him into a polished NFL product on top of multiple nagging injuries. The dud is in his mid-twenties, finally healthy and little miles on the tread. Low risk, high reward. If he's available, it would be stupid not to kick the tires. It took Darnold and Mayfield to hit their 3rd or 4th team for things to finally click. This is Lance's 3rd stop, I believe. It's either time for it to click for him or be relegated to a full time backup. Roll the dice....

Wrong. At least we put a QB sneak in the play book and and add plays over 20 yards.

He's a decent RB1, but a really good RB2. He's the first skill position player that has done anything for us recently, which parlayed him to a nice new deal.

Do you have proof to the contrary? I mean, I don't dislike Bryce the man, I dislike Bryce as the starting QB for the Carolina Panthers. I'm not going to dump on every aspect of the guy's life just because he's not the QB1 I prefer.

LB is a great value mid-round in the first. Unless there is an absolute can't miss WR prospect, stay away. Too many other holes to try to stack WRs.

The number QBs that are out of eligible years is pretty skimpy. Don't expect a deep class as most will go back to school that can, especially the top prospects. Right now you have a decent group of second round guys and some prospects early day 3. I suspect there will be some guys overvalued that will go in round one because to the lack of top prospects.

His problems aren't mental, he's actually a really sharp guy. Bryce's limitations are all physical: height, weight and arm strength. No amount of experience is going to overcome that. He knows our offensive system, is locked in with our personnel and knows how to read defenses. The problems are he can't see down field in a crowded pocket, has to step into his throws to get any sort of velocity on it, even still limited on the distance and is zero threat in the run game in as far as called QB runs (not busted pocket scrambles).

Correct, the '99 game is the most memorable Panthers/Packers game ever in my book. The '96 NFCCG is second only because of how it ended.

Red zone woes did you guys in. You could move the ball, but not seal the deal when it counted. Teams can overcome a turnover or two, but you can't generally win relying largely on FGs.

Oh yeah, I remember all too well. Height isn't his only issue, a weak arm and inability to run inside due to his slightness as well. I bet we don't have the tush push in our playbook, or any variation of a short yardage QB keeper...which is absurd.

Look, Tua let the cat out of the bag a few weeks ago when he said that short QBs CAN'T see down field without clear passing lanes. This is from a slightly taller NFL QB than Bryce. If short QBs have to step up in the pocket or it gets murky, they have to depend on timing/play design and hope the WR is where the should be when they pass the ball. Point being, why should we have to limit our offense to compensate for the deficiencies of the QB, especially going forward beyond this season? it is what it is for now, the staff will work with and scheme around Bryce. Going forward it seems like malpractice to say: "this dude, with all his limitations, is the guy to get us to a Super Bowl." Complete and utter insanity.

The dude has one, EXACTLY ONE convincing win in his entire career. That would be Atlanta earlier this season. As anyone who knows stats would say, there's always going to be an outlier data point. How anyone can say they are still undecided on Bryce is either being disingenuous or a homer. People are either stans or sellers of Bryce at this point. Fence riders just don't want to be on the wrong side of the debate, they have their minds made up, but choose not to divulge it and are simply playing coy.

I predicted 7 wins likely, 9 tops, at the start of the season. Man it was looking rough for a minute, like not even sniffing 7 wins.

Bryce didn't commit too many errors to enable the Packers win. There, that's the best way to look at it. But damn, if that is our threshold of success for our starting QB, then woo-boy...

What is the same, tired pattern here? Vintage lil' Brycey... short passes to the middle of the field. Nothing deep, except the pick, horrible on the sidelines unless it's under 10 yards. Folks this isn't rocket science, he's not a legit starting NFL QB.

Who normally posts his passing chart on Mondays? Can you please post it? This should be fun...

Bryce is not an NFL starter. On the other hand, we are not going to be close enough to the top of the draft to take a QB in what is looking like a dwindling QB class. Injuries, lackluster seasons, too many underclassmen along with NIL is making the '26 QB class thin out quickly with many of the top guys returning to school. #Trey Lance

We could have won this game with Rico in the wildcat, all other factors staying the same.

Bryce has exactly TWO wins in he career where the FG kicker didn't finish off the game for the victory. Why is this not disturbing? So we take the L outright or hope he can get us close enough for the FG kicker to win the game because he can't close the deal any earlier or put the game away himself in the closing moments. That Atlanta game earlier this year gave too many Bryce stans rejuvenated hope. For the rest of us, it was an clear and obvious fluke.

I mean he did only have one INT, one fumble that was picked up by Hubbard for a nice gain and one sack for no yardage lost. That 's not too shabby, right?