45catfan

I'm not opposed to Pitts either, just trading up for him and taking him over more premium position guys. A lot of dominoes have to fall for him to be my pick at #8, but if that scenario actually unfolded, I wouldn't be upset at all.

Actually, no it isn't if you take time to look at it objectively. But with the snide comment about Lance, that objectivity was never considered.

We didn't suck last year despite the record. Teddy 'two-gloves' and Joey Slye did more than their share to ensure those 5 wins. Had Teddy and Joey even hit 50% of those critical 4th quarter TD passes and game winning kicks, respectfully, we were a .500 team with a green defense and rookie head coach. CMC was sidelined most of the year too. There is zero reason to believe this team should be in the hunt for a top 10 pick next draft in a MUCH thinner QB class. In other words, if we opt to pass up a QB this year, we are riding with Darnold and potentially will be back in the same boat in two years looking to acquire a veteran QB if Sam isn't our franchise QB after all.

Perfect situation for Lance. He's not expected to be the 'GUY' in year one. If Fields comes here, over half of the Huddle would be want Darnold to take a backseat to the rookie right away. Oh, they will deny it now, but just wait if it comes to fruition. By the time Fields puts on a Panthers hat on draft night, Darnold becomes the backup right then and there in their mind. That's the reason Lance is the IDEAL QB for us at #8 assuming (BIG ASSUMPTION) he and Fields are both still available.

I was going for the max example at 10, I would have got called out for low-balling such an obvious weapon. However, Travis Kelce and Darren Waller lead the League tied with 9.1 catches a game average. They had 35 more catches than the #3 TE Logan Thomas who averaged about 7 catches a game. Besides Kelce and Waller, there was only one other TE that got more 20% of the passing targets and that was Evan Engram. Pitts would HAVE to be the focus for this offense to be worth the #8 pick. If people pour over the data, it shows that #8 overall pick is not the best used by drafting a TE. Tight End Stats (edit: Default is set to 'playoffs', toggle to regular season)

I agree, but in all seriousness what that tells me is the kid can't read exotic defenses. Apparently the Patriots figured that out and disguised their looks really well. So when defenders showed up where he wasn't expecting them, he was "seeing ghosts". Again, the kid has talent, he just needs to be coached up and spend a poo-ton of time in the film room with Brady and even with Luke. If anyone knows about what a defense can scheme up, it's Luke. I'm not sue what year that game was, but hopefully it was his rookie season and has learned from that. Getting back on topic, I'm still all about a QB not named Mac Jones at #8 and Lance is still that dude.

Hopefully Joe Brady can cure him of that.

Yes.

No, but the bust rate, especially for LTs goes WAY up.

I'm down with this. Dallas has two third rounders, one being a comp pick #99. That is spot on for the value of this trade. The first of their third rounders is much too pricey and they would balk. If the QBs and Sewell are gone, we trade back with Dallas pick up an extra third rounder and draft Slater at #10.

Value vs. expectation. The draft is deep on the OL, but we are looking for starters and while you can surely get some quality depth later in the draft, it is unrealistic to think they could turn into starters. Thus good value, but unrealistic expectation.

Ah, now I see why you have so few DTs. I still see 6-7 going before the end of round 3. I don't put such limiting parameters on them. I mean several guys are in the 290's. I don't think 10 pounds is going to limit their success in the League. Barmore, Onwuzurike (290), Nixon, McNeill, Wilson, Togiai and possbilby Tufele. There will be a run in rounds 4-to-5, that's where the value is this year. I agree this is not a top heavy DT class, but that's not to say there's still not some quality to be had in the meat of the draft. It would suck to be stuck in last year's boat looking for a 1st round DT because Barmore is the only one this year and he's bottom of the round. As much as people complained about taking Derrick Brown last year (saying too high for a DT), in hind sight it was the right move. FYI, I wanted Brown anyway.

I guess we got a trade partner if we want to trade back in the later rounds.

I remember someone on the board saying this was staged awhile back. While dude did pound some beers he apparently went around and collected the surrounding empties before someone took this pic.

I'll tell him, I guess. So Little wasn't even a first round pick and was sinking fast in the 2nd round until Hurney inexplicably threw him a life line by trading up to draft Greg. I'm 99% sure he would have been there several picks later at our original draft position. Heck, I didn't even want him then.

I'm only for taking a CB in the 2nd if we got our OT in the 1st and one of them falls from the first round to us at #39.

Cox should be gone and #34 is high for Samuel. Some are calling for a CB at #39, but I think there will be an early run on corners and the value will not be there at #39; in other words, without reaching. Twyman made me question his athleticism when he ran his 40 at 5.4 seconds. Remember, he's not a NT and only 280 pounds. That threw up a big red flag to me.

I get UT, but what keeps the rest of the folks from smoking?

They are a power 5 conference, thus getting the better recruits than smaller conferences so that is only logical. The players are not bad per se, just the programs. In 2019, only 3 schools besides Clemson had better than .500 conference records. THREE. It's the trend more times than not. Every since Virginia Tech, Miami, Florida State and to a lesser extent Georgia tech have fallen off their pedestals, it has left Clemson with a clear path virtually every year to the playoffs.

Only 43% of Denver fans smoke and it's legal? That alone calls into question these findings.

Who wants to tell him?

So a team or players that played most/all of the season are automatically better than teams/players with abbreviated or cancelled schedules solely because they have a larger body of work? Nah, I can't accept that. Lacking a full season of college football play does not make lesser talented teams/players better by simply filling a void.

Nice cherry pick. The 2020 season where a lot of teams cancelled or had abbreviated seasons. The ACC was one of the very few conferences that had close to a normal season. Yes, the ACC in football is trash and has been for many years now. I mean San Jose State, Tulsa, Louisiana, Coastal Carolina and Buffalo are perennial top 25 powerhouses...or was it because of COVID?

1a) Lance 1b) Sewell

Don't get me wrong, I would take Pitts at #8 if he fell and the QB or Sewell are all gone. But to trade up (a very EXPENSIVE trade up) for a player that may get 10 touches a game????