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Again who is Atlanta trading up with? They are not going to let us dictate who they draft as a QB.

Willis has an arm, but does he have Darnold field vision, meaning the lack thereof? That is his knock on tape..limited progressions and avoids routes to the interior of the field.

Nah, just up to the Jets. The Giants may be in play for a QB. It's doubtful that the Texans or Detroit take one that high. I think the Texans sit tight and take their guy next year in a MUCH better QB class. Remember they just got a TON of draft capital. Same with Detroit. They are on the hook with Goff for 3 more seasons. No need to draft his replacement right now.

They have 2-1/2 hours before Ryan's roster bonus is due, so this has to move fast!

Yup. I'm not sold on Pickett or Willis and our defense will eat either of them alive. The Falcons know we are interested in a QB. To get their guy, they are going to have to move up.

10 yard fast ball against no rush or coverage. Not very impressed.

Will they trade up in front of us for one of these two? I HOPE SO!!!!! I would love us to go against one of these rookies next season! Who is the likely trading partner?

Thanks for the recap. I acknowledged the reasoning for the metric, I just think jumping ability isn't very applicable to the success of a NFL QB. A good athletic QB does not necessarily mean a successful NFL QB. I mean, what were Tom Brady's numbers? Pretty putrid I would assume. This is how I would label the top 5 traits of a successful NFL QB. 1) Cerebral 2) Accurate 3) Film junky 4) Arm strength 5) Overall athletic ability

Like a K and P, I could care less about a QB's vertical and broad jump. His 40 time, sure, that's relevant. I get that's part of him being graded as an athlete overall, but jumping ability has little to do with QB success.

FIFY.

Rhule watching Pickett throw playing pocket pool. They are inside, why the hands in the pockets, Matt?

I saw the Ian Thomas signing and thought this FA period was going to be a poo-show. They turned it around for the most part. I didn't like re-signing Haynes and cutting Fox. I get the cap savings, but I feel Fox is a much better player.

Correct and why they won't until after the immediately after the draft depending if they feel they scored their next franchise QB or not.

THIS year. They would have already picked up his 5th year option if they meant long term. Again, while Pickett may be the most NFL ready of the bunch, he's still not a day 1 starter...none of the QBs in this class are. If the Giants take a QB it's about 2023, not 2022.

This is probably Ryan's last deal. Nobody wants his $41M deal this year. He'll be 38 in 2023 and at most will take a 1-2 year veteran deal to be a bridge QB or backup in 2023. More than likely, Ryan will retire.

Ryan is their QB this season. I don't care how big of fanboys the Pickett and Willis' crew is, neither are ready to start this season. Atlanta is looking to groom a guy for 2023, Ryan's final year. They save $15M by cutting or trading him in that final contract year. If the rookie comes along even slower than expected, they have the luxury to sit him an additional year if need be. As much as I can't stand the Falcons, at least they seem to have a plan in place.

Pickett grew out his thumb and pinky nails.

A solid B at this point. I like most of the signings, but others, not so much.

The Giants haven't picked up Jones' 5th year option yet. Maybe this is a reason? They have been mocked consistently taking Ekwonu if he's still on the board. If they take Pickett AND leave Ekwonu alone (if still undrafted)....that is a HUGE win for us, IMO.

I'd love to see Detroit or Giants take him!!!

They can still sign Cam to a long-term deal too. Agreed it doesn't take OT off the table, it does give them options though. The need a real threat at DE. Hutchinson is regarded widely at the #1 prospect. It makes too much sense for them.

I wouldn't mind trading down if all 3 OTs are gone. My thought is if Willis or Pickett are still on the board when are back up, even if OT#4 is right there, the temptation to take the QB will be too great.

As good as we have done in FA, If we don't come away without even a viable option for 2023, we failed the FA game. Why? We are NOT extending Darnold as the starter, not even if he actually plays decent this year. As of right now, we have ZERO QBs for 2023. Easy...draft a QB this year, right? WRONG. There is a single play there...new QB comes in and is ready to go. That works out how often? Two of three scenarios says pigeon-holing with a QB this draft is setting us up for failure. The kid isn't good or needs time to develop. Again, data shows rookie QBs with success out of the gate is very limited. Maybe Pickett can manage games for us by 2023, but many of these guys will take several years to develop. Again, we need a veteran QB.

Since the Jags put a franchise tag on Cam Robinson, many feel like OT isn't the pick for them any longer, unless they go Ekwonu and put him at guard. Hutchinson won't make it mast pick two. The Lions and Texans have lots of needs so they will take BPA. Jets will go defense after investing heavily on the offense. If Ekwonu is still there, the Giants will take him as a guard. They HAVE to protect Jones. That leaves us with Cross. He is very scattershot on BBs. Some have him right behind Neal and Ekwonu while others have him as a mid-round pick...not that far ahead of Penning. Why? He's a good pass protector, but coming from a pass happy system doesn't have his run blocking chops yet. Given a deficiency in an OT, I'll take needing improve on run blocking over pass blocking 10 out of 10 times. Question being if the Panthers are like some of those BBs and think Cross is closer to a mid-round pick than a top 10 pick, do we take him or the QB?

No, my claim is Willis isn't that good and Liberty is an obscure football program. All power 5 teams aren't created equal. Yes, he beat a B-A-D Virginia Tech team. So what? You make it sound like he beat a Beamer team in his prime. Lance won a Natty, went undefeated--16-0 and threw ZERO picks that season as a true sophomore. He threw 28 TDs and rushed for 14 more. Lance will have a better career than Willis, I have ZERO doubt. My point with bringing up Edwards is you don't go drafting kids from smaller, non-pedigree schools just because they surprise a power 5 team on a bad day. I still contend he went to Liberty because he was a shoo-in as the starter and the familiarity with the staff was merely a bonus.