45catfan

Moved up to #7 after today. If we lose out, we still need the Giants to win 1 more (they have the tie breaker over us) and Chicago to win 2 more. That gets us #5.

Hmmm...8-8. Might want to rethink that.

Ok, but living in the past isn't helping us now. This year's QB class is pretty bad, but the OL class is loaded. So we still take a mediocre QB over an O-lineman in the first round? Save the yester-years diatribe, it's akin to spilled milk. What's done is done. This is about the future.

I thought I remember Rhule saying they (meaning he) liked Henderson. Fitterer just made it happen at Rhule's request I'm thinking. Right now I think Fitterer's hands a bit tied with Rhule mainly calling the shots on personnel. There's few coaches that can handle both ends of those duties and unless your name is Belichick, it's probably going to end badly.

I'm not sure who made the final call on CJ Henderson, but I didn't like the move then and I hate it now.

That's the reason I laughed when folks were debating if this draft class was better than the 2020 one.

One of the few left. Most natives have fled or are trying to flee. Heck, even the 2nd generation folks are fleeing as well.

We lost? Color me shocked.

So we tank Two years in a row is your objective? We get the LT next draft and possibly a solid OG and with a new coaching staff (hopefully) build a culture and roadmap for a rookie QB in 2023. Again, drafting a rookie in the first round and duct taping this OL is the very definition of insanity. Build the OL and THEN get your QB.

Yes, but he has a Natty on his college resume and a turd on his NFL resume. Which one do you think he would like to correct?

We have to finished tied or worse than the Giants, who have the tie breaker over us and worse than the Bears. Why? The G-men have two first rounders (they own the Bears pick and if all other things stay the same as they are currently other than these three teams, we'd move up TWO spots in the draft. One additional win could really spoil that scenario.

USNR myself. I'm glad Navy won.

Do I waste 3 hours watching this game or do I simply look up the score at 4pm and find something more constructive to do with my time? Sad times.

Would it make you feel better if I told you that Cam should be here next year regardless of the outcome of the next 5 games? Why? What some of these guys can't get through their thick skulls is drafting a rookie QB this year is about as pointless as washing your hands before taking a crap instead of afterwards. If I even have to explain why even further proves my point. I'm not the biggest Cam advocate, and I surely don't think he's ever going to be pre-2017 Cam again, but I do believe he's the best option for a bridge QB until the 2023 draft.

BTW, Ekwonu has won yet another honor/award, bringing his total to 3 now: Jacob's blocking Trophy, and 2 First Team All-American honors.

I had a dream last night that we were drafting around pick #7 and Ekwonu was still on the board rated as the top guy on the ESPNs big board at that point. What do the Panthers do? Well, apparently Tepper doesn't fire Rhule and they...wait for it...TRADE BACK! How did the dream end? I don't freaking know either because I woke up PISSED OFF!

After being such a bust initially, I'm sure the dude wants to redeem himself. He's proven himself in college, so why go back there? However, if he has another rough stint in the NFL, expect him to go back to the college ranks with his tails between his legs.

This team needs to be around pick 5 to get a real difference maker. Winning another game all but assures us of picking closer to #10. Also the lower we go, the more tempting it will be for Rhule, if still here, to trade back.

I think losing to Atlanta seals the deal for Tepper, but I'm sure he pulls the trigger that quickly. Things probably starts moving behind the scenes and once we are officially/mathematically eliminated Rhule is gone. It may take 3 more weeks with how crazy this season is turning out. Even losing to the Falcons, it's very odd that a 5 win team wouldn't be eliminated with only 4 games remaining.

OC yes, but with whom as the HC? Bill strikes me as power-hungry and needs to be held in check, otherwise he's is a good-to-great coach. I still think Del Rio would make a good HC. Del Rio-HC O'Brien-OC Retain Snow as DC? That could work.

I think we will be picking 7-10. Mahomes was an anomaly, but please keep using him as an example and I'll start to use Tom Brady why it's wise to draft your franchise QB in the 6th round. Normally that range of QB flops. Which gets me to.... that range of QB normally flops. Talk about moving goal posts, just because the top guy in this draft may be say selection #10, does not mean he'll be equivalent to Trevor Lawrence or Kyler Murray due to the talent spectrum shifting to the lower end of the scale where we pick. First QB off the board does not equate to first pick overall which those guys were. Just because our pick may line up with first QB slated off the board does not mean that QB is worth the risk.

Dumb thread. Rivera finished 5-of-6 that year. Rhule ?-of-5 to finish the year. Lucky to be 2. Ron's club was competitive and had moxie. Rhule's club, I get the feeling they are already booking vacations.

Biggest difference: Rivera started out weak and typically finished strong and vying for the playofffs. Rhule beats a few doormat teams out of the gate and then packs it in for the year while watching other teams leapfrog us into the wildcard race as we look like a fish flopping out of water.

Rhule just seems lost and in over his head. Rivera seemed to come up just short. While I was pissed at Rivera during that time, I never called for his job. Rhule should have never left college.

Cherry picking at it's finest. Mahomes was #10, so thus a top 10 pick, Watson was #12, so nearly a to 10. Rogers was a fluke slide and Jackson had a bunch of question marks . Again, if you want to spend the only pick we have in the top 100 on a suspect QB, then that's on you my friend. Cherry pick the scenario that fits your narrative all you want, its not going to change the fact this this a SUBPAR QB CLASS.