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It's not new, but I think we are given him too much to think about. I get the kid is smart, but give him one play and let him execute it. If opting for the second play was providing any meaningful success, then this would be a moot point. Constantly changing the play AND it still sucking, well that's a tough pill to swallow.

To my "every year" hecklers...this is the position, NOT QB, that I have been wanting to draft every year since 2017. When Olsen first broke his foot, I was wanting a to groom his eventual replacement...even if he did come back healthy. SIX drafts later the best we have done is Ian Thomas and I hated the pick even then. All we have done is coddle the dude when he's obviously a bust. Heck, he even got a nice new contract based on minimal production. Oh well, It couldn't possibly take as long as we did to draft a LT...or could it?

Tremble makes a great clear out/decoy as long as he doesn't actually have to catch the ball.

Kill, kill, kill. Actually, too much freedom. The rookie needs to run the play called and not audible to another play most of the time. If it worked, then great, but it hasn't.

This is what is so depressing; the last dude taken in the draft as a flyer pick. That's right, only ONE incomplete pass ALL game.

So Ian wasn't supposed to chip the end? I was screaming at Thomas on that play. How can you have pass rusher lined up across from you and allow him to get a free release?

He can't gain height, but he can put on mass and get stronger. That strip-sack/fumble today was weak. The defender barely whacked him on the arm and the ball popped out. Dude needs a whey powder infused IV. I'd like to see Bryce get up to about 215 pounds.

At least for now. I think it would be worth while to sit Bryce the next couple of games and let's give it another go in week 8 after the bye.

The owner will not fire himself though.

Rhule was smart enough not to start a rookie QB, but being a terrible talent evaluator, couldn't find a quality FA QB either.

One of the last plays at the end of the game, a TE was running a seam route on the left hash and Young didn't sling it. Many more instances, but that one being at the end of the game sticks out in my memory the most.

That's bottom of the barrel stuff right there. I agree on Navarro, but he wasn't as rich as Tepper. The deepest pockets will always win out. Just like the Walton Family got the Broncos and Tepper's hedge fund ilk got the Washington team. It's not about what's best for the organization, but much deeper can the pockets get in the NFL.

I watch it on live TV, not on my computer. No I don't have the timestamps.

So Bryce is asking for all these throws behind the LOS? It's one thing to ask for a deep shot or two, but even discounting the 30 yard passes from Dalton, the pass charts look a lot different. You have to ask yourself why? Same staff, same play caller, same playbook, just a different QB. Let's not overlook the obvious.

I saw several routes today in that range and Bryce didn't throw the ball.

Hmmm, I guess there was a special playbook the quickly cooked up last week for Dalton.

Yeah, but it's starting to sink in with some folks. When he's not even looking beyond 20 yards, there's a problem. I'm sure our playbook has plays that has routes of 20+ yards.

Ickey has a rough start to last season too and got it cleaned up. But yeah, going into year two, the slow start shouldn't be a thing.

I saw several plays where a target was open beyond the LOS. Young refused to pull the trigger. Dude is legit shell shocked.

Growing pains indeed, but this was a home game and he was having trouble getting the plays off in time. Honestly there could have been at 3 or 4 more delay of games as the play clock hit zero when the ball was snapped. As I said in another post, Seattle last week with Bryce would have been atrocious. He's a rookie and should be treated as such. It's not an insult to simplify things for him. I dare say Bryce may even be relieved to have some things taken off his plate right now.

I get it, but I really wanted Dalton to start just this week to at least get one win. Next week, Young could go back to learning the ropes versus the Lions. Looking at that 0 in the win column is a freaking gut punch man.

Again, they need to simplify it. I get Young is supposed to be this human computer, but he's a rookie QB. He SHOULD NOT be given the latitude he's getting right now. You can rationalize it all you want to. The end result is--it's NOT WORKING. If calling two plays is causing delay of games, hurried snaps and less time for the rookie to read the defense, then SIMPLIFY it. Continuously running into a brick wall is not going to make the brink wall move. Sure he can probably execute this in practice in a 'no hit' jersey and with a mock pass rush against a defense he knows well, but on game day it looks bad.

Yup, but what he's doing is checking out of the first play and for a rookie this too much responsibility. Bryce needs one play and execute it. Maybe he can get the snap off in time. I shudder to imagine had he stated last week in Seattle how ugly that offensive performance would have been.