45catfan

Impatience. More so on the owner's side than even the fan base I would think. Trying to force something to happen can make a bad situation worse in some instances

This is why I wanted to wait until next draft for the QB. The cabinets were nearly bare on the offensive side of the ball except the OL. Why bring a rookie QB into that situation? We should have built the supporting cast this year and then dropped in the rookie QB.

He's really good, but not elite. He wants to get paid like the later. We suck too bad to start paying guys like we are a player away. Let a team who IS a player away at edge pay him what thinks he deserves.

Burns for a 1st in 2024 and a second in 2025 plus a WR who is a legit #2. We recoup our draft picks for Bryce and go from there. TMJ is a bust. He's supposed to be our #2, but he's not even a #3. Next draft we snag the best WR and edge in the first two rounds at our pick. Then we have Bryce, Mingo, drafted WR, traded WR. On defense we lock up Brown, rookie edge and a new corner on the boundary to put D-Jax in the slot. That's even before I talk about FA. This sh*t isn't that hard.

That would be Brown who we pay. It's finally clicked with him. LBs are a dime a dozen. In today's NFL on defense, you invest in your line and corners. Kids are more athletic and faster now, so finding an edge/3-4 OLB in the draft is easier than it used to be. If they can play the run too? BONUS!

Yup. Above market on average dude over a crippling contract. Maybe first or a second rounder, but yes, draft a guy. Same principle of why we drafted a rookie QB; cheap contract and hopefully they can be developed.

My point being Burns is produces in spurts. He'll go off in one half of one game and then disappear for a while. Good on the Panthers for telling Burns' agent he ain't getting top of the market value.

Rotational. Haynes has been extended twice before. YGM isn't going anywhere. They are depth this year, they can be depth next. We can draft a guy of go the FA route. What I feel we can't do is be married to a Burns mega-deal.

YGM and Haynes would be tough to re-sign?

Burns has been almost nonexistent since the opening quarter in Atlanta where he posted two sacks. The past couple of games: 6 tackles (3 solo and 3 assists) and one sack. Luvu has .5 less in sacks but 5 more tackles. His contract is nowhere near Burns, but producing comparably.

My point being that Burns should be shipped off if the package is right. He played yesterday and we got 37 points put on us. Yes, we are banged up defensively, but if that man wants to get paid top 5 pass rusher money, dude needs to be a force every game, every down--not just showing up periodically.

This is a rebuilding year. Hoard as much capital as possible (cap space and draft picks). We aren't making the playoffs this year. The difference in a 4,5, or 6 win total is meaningless in year 1 with a new coaching staff starting a rookie QB. Not to mention we are already banged up severely which hampers our competitiveness. This team is going nowhere this season. Get what we can to springboard us into 2024.

Yeah, among the slew of problems yesterday, QB play wasn't one of them. Hell, if the defense could have forced just a couple of punts and the offense cut it's pre-snap penalties in half, we win that ballgame.

We trade Burns, period. Too much money to tie up in one player that's not your franchise QB for a team with too many holes to fill going forward. We could use the draft capital as well.

Not in the first round. Next year's QB draft is so deep we'd be foolish not to take a flyer pick in the mid rounds. Dalton isn't going to be here forever and if Bryce does or doesn't work out it would be nice to have a developing guy as the eventual #2.

Yup, but it's hard to not start the #1 overall pick. Would I have started Bryce? Nope, rookies, especially QBs struggle mightily. I would have rather have caught flack from the media and some fans by starting Dalton than staring 0-3 in the face. Now we have Bryce banged up, probably a bit shaken in his confidence, a pissed off fan base and crappy record to show for it.

Is this the case at QB as well? Projection aside, as of now, Dalton is our best QB and it ain't even close.

Need to take a poll: Which is more important wins or Bryce getting more reps? Yes, the two are mutually exclusive, at least right now. Dalton gives us the best chance for a victory, but at the expense of the #1 draft pick watching from the sideline. Or, we can let Bryce take his lumps for "experience" and keep this losing steak rolling along. It would be interesting to see how people feel.

Yo, just saw we play the Vikings next week. We are going to light up the scoreboard to have any chance. Bryce need to sit this one out too. Make sure that ankle is fully healed up and all. Our defense isn't slowing Cousins and Jefferson down. Calling it now, the team to post 40+ points wins.

Start Dalton until there's a reason not to. Let Bryce learn while holding a clipboard. If Andy strings a few Ws together, Bryce getting mental reps from the safety of the sideline won't seem like such a bad move.

Namely an early down RB, a possession boundary WR and a legit second option at TE. Crazy...all three of those I was begging for during preseason. We have the cap space. Heck, a decent RB can be had for peanuts. Sanders is a 3rd down back. Chuba is mischaracterized as our power back. The TMJ experiment is OVER. The Ian Thomas experiment is OVER. Trying to turn Chuba Hubbard into Jerome Bettis isn't going to work. Penalties can be cleaned up, but these are key components of our offense that have JAGs there. We need upgrades.

Fun fact! When your get your bias out of the way, the offense has gotten better each game and the defense has gotten worse! Shocked? Sorry to ruin the narrative that is running amuck with facts.

UNC folks are the rosiest of rose colored glasses fans in the region. I live in the Clemson area now and the homerism is top-notch around here. Man, does it get annoying! Even compared to them, UNC fans take the cake. It's the very reason I decided NOT to be a UNC fan growing up (in Charlotte) even among family and friends who were. The phrase 'people think that their sh*t doesn't stink' was coined to describe UNC fans. The self-gratification and elitism is nerve grating to say the least.

Yup and made their offense look like the Chiefs. Simple math 37>27. Nearly put 40 on us today, but let's keep harping on our offense. FYI, 27 point would have won our first two games.

It will turn around as long as we are patient. We will turn into the Jets with the constant turnover of coaching staffs if we continue to call for for people to be fired. It sucks, but things don't happen over night.