45catfan

If someone offers a 1st and a non-washed veteran starter OR 1st and other picks (2nd or a combination no lower than 4ths) then I'd still pull the trigger. The hang up for me is the desired salary. If Burns wanted to stay for higher than average edge salary, but not elite, then I'd be okay with him remaining. Dude is looking for the bag and we have WAY too much to invest in the future of this team to tie up a poo ton of cap money in a non-QB player.

Ok bro, are you really here to talk ball? Doesn't seem like it. You have not contributed one thing to this thread other than attempting to get in a pissing match. Congrats, mission accomplished.

Thanks bro, but I got this. The newbie is trying to stake out some territory. Happy bye week to you. Enjoy the serenity before more stress next Sunday, lol!

I was pointing out the obvious because sometimes even those things that seem so simple on the surface gets missed. Someone felt the need to post the chart and seemed like it needed discussion even though the rationality behind it seemed pretty straight forward in Bryce's case. FYI, being snarky doesn't win you any cool points. If anything it puts a bullseye on you, especially newbies.

Adam is shifty,quicker than fast and has veteran savvy with great hands. He works the middle of the field that's Bryce sweet spot. It's not all that difficult to figure out really.

Hey, I wasn't the one that thought the chart had some wonderful insight. if you don't attempt any 30 yard passes at all...

But such a trade would make the the team think it's worth while to keep beating it's head against a brick wall. I was advocating for a benching, but now? Nope, let this dumpster fire burn a raging inferno.

Nope, that ship has sailed. I was PLEADING that we do that prior to the Vikings game when Byrce was coming off a bum ankle. Perfect time for a mini-benching with excuse built in. Nah, we are going to straight 'David Carr' him (yes, I used a person as a verb) in crap-tacular fashion. Giving Bryce one extra JAG WR isn't going to move the needle one iota. That's my point that is lost on some folks, trading for a mediocre dude, while better than Mingo and TMJ, isn't going to accomplish much except further deplete our limited draft capital and add to unnecessarily to our cap overhead while giving the staff that one extra stupid reason to keep Bryce out there.

Who is giving up a WR worth their salt right now? The trade deadline is just over a week away. Heck, we haven't even thrown in the towel at 0-6 and teams that theoretically still have a chance--even as long shots are going to trade their top WR? Com'on man, really? I get having "ideas", but then there's also reality.

Yes, Penix has PLENTY experience. As it's being shown, even savant wonder-kids have problems in the NFL because they don't have enough snaps before facing grown arse men. They may wow people on a white board, but when it comes to live fire, the only thing to aid that is more experience.

We should be purely sellers at this point. The season is toast. If the staff is committed to playing Bryce even to a hypothetical 0-17 record, a couple of meaningless victories, at best, while acquiring more long-term debt is doubling down on dumb. The front office needs to own the bad season and stop trying to stick bubble gum on leaky pipes. Screwing up the future trying to save face by trading FOR players is bewildering. You make those trades when you are in the hunt for the postseason. The only hunt we are in is trying to find the light switch to see how to get out of the basement.

Incomplete sample size for Bryce and dinking/dunking helps out that tremendously. We've seen the pass charts game by game, his accuracy gets worse the further away from the LOS he gets. I guess the short passes people were b*tchng about actually worked in Bryce's favor according to this obscure metric.

Luck went back because we had the #1 pick. Smart move. Yes some underclassmen man go back but, MANY of these guys are near or at the end of their eligiblity. Even if the top of the class thins out due to returning students, the amount of high value picks at QB is ridiculous. I was NOT in favor of moving up for the QB this draft, none of them. As it stands now, only one of the 3 looks to have been worth it and he's not the one we took.

Purdy was a true Senior. I could care less about transfers. If that were the case and that was a 'ding', Cam Newton would have been the poster child for failure. My point was and is that 24 or 25 year old QBs being viewed as old is moronic. I see it as being more experienced and each situation is nuanced and can't be lumped all into one category, but a QB with 4+ years of high quality starting experience at one school or multiple ones is better than some wonder-child 21 year old that likely was a product of a flashy system or successful program.

Older dudes like Brock Purdy? The older QB argument is completely bogus. I used to buy into it too. As long as the added years weren't due to major injuries, I'm fine drafting and 24 or 25 year-old QB. I also bought into the the young phenom fallacy too. QBs coming out early have struggled, the earlier they leave college, the more they struggle. This is a REALLY seasoned QB class. QBs probably have the longest shelf life of any position in football outside of special teams types. So what if they are a couple of years older? If they can play well into their mid-30's, those 'extra' years of college are actually beneficial. I've come to realize that this game is too big for a 22-23 year old on the biggest stage at arguably the hardest position to play in all of sports. Penix will be a solid NFL QB. Nix, I'm not so sure, but I'd put him above mayo&coffee boy this year. I haven't dug into much yet. I usually start around Thanksgiving. Just basing my early thoughts off of last draft's digging, but that being said, this seems to be the class to get a QB.

Just stalling the inevitable L.

Fire sale. At this point we need to burn it down at restart. Keeping dudes like D-Jax and Burns who in reality aren't as good as their salaries/potential salaries suggest are just hamstringing us later down the road. If trying to cobble 2-3 wins in the goal here--not in a row--all season, then overpaying dudes makes zero sense. Yes, Chicago gets our pick and that may be #1 overall, but who cares? The egg on our face is already there and couple of wins isn't going to somehow take the stink of that turd.

Yep and the reason we should have built our skill positions (outside of QB) this season, let this coaching staff get acclimated to one another, rode with a veteran like Dalton and THEN got our QB in the draft this spring. *incoming form the peanut gallery* "But you say that every year!" For the record, I do not.

They missed the decimal--10.4 catches.

I couldn't even get a bite at a grand per seat last year when I tried to sell them. It came time to buy tickets again and I let them go. The headache of going to the games was getting old, not to mention the money spent (crap isn't getting any cheaper). All the good north side parking lots got gobbled up for development over the past several years. Tailgate buddies started to go their separate ways too; it was just time. Oh yeah, the product on the field sucked. That made it a lot less painful to part with the PSLs.

Yes, a team turns it around and the HC is fired because the OC did his job. Lol, the Huddle is good for several laughs a day.

TB was fetching coffee during the offensive meetings apparently.

I need this thing to turn into a shootout! My fantasy team and opponent are only a few points apart. It's down to Allen for me and Dallas' defense for him.

Every time we try to switch to a 3-4 on the fly (without properly bringing in the right personnel) we fall flat on our face. It's not as seamless of a switch as most people think. There's a reason teams draft defensive personnel to fit them schematically, namely LBs, edge and D-line.