45catfan

Have fun in your echo chamber guys. I'm not wasting my time here today. Please continue...

https://nypost.com/2020/05/29/new-yorks-nursing-home-horrors-are-even-worse-than-you-think/ https://youtu.be/Tw9Ci2PZKZg The nursing home data is irrefutable and well documented. The fact you needed a link tells me everything. Nice personal attack. Not shocking, though.

Lol, linking a Google search page.

Because it has shown that up until day 6 the disease is very treatable with the HCQ protocol. Simple. It's a $20 treatment. Despite the fact to demonize it, the side effects are about nil. Why not? What's your alternative? Wait until you get hospitalized and take Redemisvir?

Typo, sorry. Would not decline and would absolutely take the protocol.

Look, we can go back and forth on this. There are sources supporting pro and con, as I could cite the Ford study....so to keep trading links amounts to a pissing contest. My question to you is if you catch this, seeking medical attention on say day 4 of feeling ill and a doctor you see prescribe the protocol for HCQ as you show the classic symptoms, will you decline it? A simple yes or no. Easy for me, I absolutely would not. <---edit. Lastly, I may make another point or two today, but as I said many, many, many pages ago....people have their minds made up, especially here on the Huddle. The idea that this was a thread of open-minded people looking for an opinion to help them on where they stand on this pandemic was lost about 400 pages ago. Trenches were dug early and only have gotten deeper.

18:40-20:12 The so-called adverse heart affects when used early in outpatient use, which is exactly what is being advocated. Half an hour long, but great overall.

Show me a study on how many people died people from heart issues when HCQ was used in COVID-19 cases. I'll wait. Again, this is being prescribed worldwide, just not for COVID-19 in certain countries. Some countries are still using it for COVID-19 treatment, however. Heck it's so dangerous, it's OTC in certain countries. It just struck me as funny that the guy banging his fists about masks is trying his best to debunk a therapeutic. Just wow.

Yet it has been around since for use in the US since 1955 and continued to be used, just not for coronavirus. Dropping dead from heart attacks was sarcasm. The "study" that had a few heart side affects was instances of heart arrhythmia, not heart attacks. I see adds for drugs on TV every day with side effects that rattle on the length of the ad, usually ending with and 'could cause death'. I guess lupus and rheumatoid arthritis patients are dispensable. I mean big tech is even in on the act. Why sensor the doctors that went to DC yesterday?

Ughhh...Dr. Fauci knew that HCQ worked on the first SARS, he did work on it himself. So instead of doing his best squirrel in the street routine, he could point to that. But nah, lets roll out a new, rushed, medication out there that isn't nearly as effective, ridiculously expensive as a nod to his pals in big Pharma. Now Remdesivir is showing side effects in the liver. That's better than a skin rash I guess, which was the main side effect for years in HCQ until all of sudden it was making people drop dead with heart attacks. Well, that was the narrative for pulling it for off-label Covid-19 use. Yet lupus and rheumatoid arthritis patients are just fine to continue using it. So strange right?

I'm not looking for help, because I don't need it. So why is Dr. Fauci ignoring his own findings from SARS-CoV(1) from years ago? They share 79% of the same genome. Hmmm...so odd. Though some of the 145,000+ deaths due to COVID-19 are dubious at best, even if that's taken at face value, ignoring therapeutics that have worked past and present is kinda stupid. Killing old people by sticking infected people in nursing homes also was kinda stupid. But sure, putting band aides on the problem (masks and lock downs) is the best way to tackle this. So the best way forward is assuming arbitrary barriers will stop this rather than acknowledging people will contract the virus and having the ability to treat it?

I almost pied you until the "nut job" comment, but I will give you credit for looking him up. FYI, Dr. Risch is not remotely close to the only one, however I figured 'Doctor', 'Yale', and 'School of Epidemiology' were enough credentials that you may take him a little seriously. This thread has been politicized a good deal.

Classic projection, lol! Textbook. You are not an Independent. At least drop the facade. Compared to the openly unabashed socialist moderators here on the Huddle, I guess you may be considered in the middle. Continue the echo chamber, please. Oh, I bet you didn't even bother to look up the epidemiology Dr. at Yale (Dr. Risch), did you? Why? You knew it was probably going to run contrary to what you ALREADY think. Why did I not post the link? Well, we have already gone over that haven't we? Look it up or don't, it makes zero difference to me. I'm not here to change your mind, nor do I care to.

Sorry, I won't tune it out or turn it off. Staying informed is extremely important. Being ignorant on a subject is just as bad as willingly accept being lied to. I refuse both. This is the very tact of the left. You either eat the MSM narrative up with a spoon or being so partisan and off-putting, that people just disengage all together. Either way, it's a win-win for them. That's why they shout down, discredit and completely dismiss any other outlet.

So this is how this goes down...intentionally. The MSM won't cover things that run contrary to the leftist talking points. Then other venues for news materialize. They are "right-wing" sites and left-wingers won't discuss, just besmirch and discredit. So the fanboys in the MSM won't cover issues contrary to the DNC, BUT news from other sites that aren't MSM is right-wing garbage. See how this works? It's not rocket science.

You are a lost cause dude, so stop shilling as an Independent. Masks are better than therapeutics, I guess? Keep making this a singular shiny object issue. I guess the head of the Yale school of Epidemiology is a political hack, right? I could tell you to go *blank* yourself too, but I'm bigger than that. Laughable.

You are not simple minded, so stop acting like it. Lock downs DO NOT WORK, mask wearing SLOWS the spread. We need therapeutics and/or a vaccine. This whole idea if people wear a mask, this will stop is simpleton talk. I am NOT ANTI MASK! However, I recognize their limitations. You claim to be an Independent, but you sure do parrot the left wing talking points. Maybe open your mind to consider news that isn't MSM. Again, faith in MSM is fading more by the day and that's because they are so trustworthy, right? The left-wingers on this site have political ends, so I overlook their nonsense. So yeah, they are going to immediately crap on any source that runs contrary to their narrative. Typical.

We could be doing better, but we are putting profit and politics over lives. When 51% of the deaths could have been averted, that's an abomination. Why? That treatment isn't as profitable as NEW treatments and greatly diminishing the pandemic before November wouldn't meet certain political ends.

Muh sources R betta than ur sources. LOl!!!! American trust in media is at 20%, but sure their word is gold despite getting fact checked constantly.

Twitter censoring Covid-19 advise that runs contrary to what Dr. Fauci and the other government agencies say. Freedom of speech is fading fast folks. So Twitter can now say which doctors are creditable or not, because apparently they are medical experts themselves.

What I was figuring, but was just wondering if you were foreshadowing the damns breaking. I'm not sure how much of global news you keep up with.

Where is this in reference to? Very apt if you are saying thousands of people are literally about to drown.

Miami-Dade EXPANDS Mask Mandate

LOl! Nah man, I'm good. Mask slow, not stop just like Hong Kong experienced as it resurfaced again. Keep following the piper. Most of America has resumed, FYI.

Does Miami-Dade not have a mask mandate? I will look, but going off memory, I thought they one in place. Shiny object continued.