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The last I'm saying on this and moving on. I have said she could be a fake, but I don't automatically dismiss someone just because of a belief they hold. For the record, I'm not anti-vaxx. I have had many over my lifetime. However, it would be like you blowing the whistle on something and people find out you believe....I don't know, say in aliens. Oh, this dude thinks UFOs are real, so he's lying. Final point, whistle blowing isn't easy, depending on the magnitude, it can change or even ruin a person's and their families life. It's to be taken very serious knowing the potential fallout, immunity from whistle blower laws or not.

It's a treatment to help those having a really hard time breathing prior to going the ventilator route. Obviously once on a vent, things get bleak.

Nah, just not a millennial whose parents told them everything they spout is the truth and have a hard time processing anything that runs contrary to their thoughts.

LOl, she has undercover video with audio and he posted a quick dismissive opinion, so yeah...they are completely on par with one another.

a) That's all you got? She wants to be famous. Alright then. b) Investigative journalism is dead? Depends if a score needs to be settled...we all know this. OBJECTIVE investigative journalism is dead, that much I will agree with. c) So then, when there is investigative journalism done and it doesn't jive with your "view" it's automatically discredited. Got it.

Averaging figures, thus the decimal in deaths. Can't have a .4 of a death for example. Trend lines typically work on gradual curves. That's the reason I prefer bar graphs. We have been averaging 8-9 daily deaths per week for a while, but you know how averages work. So yes, some days we have as low as 6 deaths and some days as high as 12...generally speaking. https://www.scdhec.gov/infectious-diseases/viruses/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/sc-demographic-data-covid-19 Edit: Weird, so you have to toggle from Reported Cases to Reported Deaths--it's the first bar graph once on the Reported Deaths page. For some reason, the link reverts to reported cases.

Things will have to get really, REALLY bad for SC to start losing 25 people a day by October as the projections are estimating. A typical day is about 6 deaths and a very bad day is 10-12. These models are based off recent trends and lags several days. Late last week SC had a couple of really bad days with a spike in deaths and record number of cases, but things have calmed back down for the time being. Give it a few more days and if things stay at the current levels with no more spikes, those projections will trend back down some and not look quite as ominous.

I had been seeing stuff floating around about NYC's pols involvement before this video, but it was always second hand as sources were too afraid to come out directly (mostly nurses afraid of losing their jobs). Two camps here, this lady is a freaking kook or she's telling the truth. Even if she is being honest, she's going up against the NYC establishment so it's just going to get swept under the rug. Shouldn't the NYC media at least do their due diligence to debunk it? I mean, it's a very powerful accusation. If it were a complete fabrication it should be easily and quickly debunked, correct? Why completely ignore it as I'm sure someone, somewhere in the mega NYC media has seen this video. Could it be they have no interest in seeing if there is any truth behind this and possibly bring further light to the situation? Could it be they are willfully ignoring it in hopes it will just fade away? Accusations and allegations (this video and other sources): -Admitting patients that tested positive with minor symptoms--$10,000 for admitting COVID-19 patients -Prematurely putting patients on vents; most died. Hospitals got $36,000 from insurers for vent patients -Coding non-coronavirus deaths as such to get earmarked money for having "treated COVID-19 patients" -Putting COVID-19 patients in nursing homes with the most vulnerable populations -Line item put in a budgetary bill eliminating culpability of nursing homes in coronavirus deaths, limiting litigation. I mean, I could understand how this is a complete non-story...nothing serious at all about this, but Trump tripping down a walkway ramp is front page news. The NYC media is either being very lazy digging into this or being tow-the-line accomplices by willfully turning a blind eye. Which one is it?

Yup, filtered and sanitized to fit a narrative. Why is De Blasio forbidding trace workers from asking people if they had recently attended protests? Initial reports from Missouri protest tracing, only 1.4% have tested positive so far.

Struck a nerve, I see. Lol.

Nope, but a lot of people do. BTW, nice retort.

I still think NYC screwed it up for everyone. Also giving increased incentives to treat coronavirus patients, I think the system got scammed....BADLY. You can't look at NYC death figures and then look at every other city/state and say it looks normal. Just dismissing it because of their large population is being very short-sided. I would like to say their incompetence was due to ignorance, but unfortunately it was more than likely malicious. Washington State/Seattle never got that bad and they were ground zero for the virus. Chicago, LA, Detroit, DC, Dallas, Miami...this list goes on and on, none of these large cities experienced the same rate of death, so large populations isn't the main factor here. Greed and politicization is at the core or this. I really hope De Blasio gets thrown in jail once exposed. Cuomo is culpable too.

I'm more concerned for our economy and people's physical/mental well being. I'm not personally banking on a vaccine. Truth be known, the virus will most likely mutate into a less lethal form or burn itself out before a vaccine is readily available. However short of a vaccine, the hysteria will not settle down. As stated earlier, I probably wouldn't even get a shot. I'm hopeful for a vaccine so certain people that are still hunkered down in 'bubble mode' can get on with their lives. The secondary death toll may never fully be known (suicides, refusal of medical attention for treatable conditions and unable to get medical attention). I would venture to say it could be up to 1/3 of all "related" coronavirus deaths.

While Ebola is very lethal, it doesn't spread this easily and did't spread to every place on the globe. This is a 'all hands on deck' situation. Secondly, SARS is known virus. While this particular strain is novel, the family has been studied for a while, so it's not like they are starting from scratch with a complete enigma.

*Knocks on wood* The death rate is still inching down. I hope the trend continues! The confirmed cases are obviously still climbing, but the death curve is flattening out and has been heading that way for a little while.

I won't either unless I'm mandated to. I've never voluntarily taken a vaccine, only when I've had to. As I get older, that may change. If I were an elderly person during this pandemic, I would certainly think about it.

Heck, even one that's 50% effective is better than nothing. It's no different than the seasonal flu shot where they have no idea going into the "flu season" which strain will be most prevalent. That's the reason people still catch the flu despite getting a shot. The point is it saves some people from getting sick or worse, dying, while giving the populace in general the idea that they are safe. The flu season a couple of years ago claimed an estimated 61,000 lives. This was with a vaccine available.

I just wish they would hurry up with a vaccine already. A vaccine would calm people down. Prioritize health care workers and the most vulnerable and then work our way down. There are some being tested now, hopefully they can get cleared and start getting people their shots before winter.

Due to the player's age range, it is very unlikely to have any serious or long lasting medical ramifications. The people who are of concern are the older coaches.

A season with fans? Nope, I think that's not going to happen anymore, not even limited. Too much of a liability...especially the possibility suing such a cash cow like the NFL. The League won't expose themselves like that.

True, but most people I do see wearing masks are the demographic that is the most vulnerable to complications, the elderly. If I were over 60, I would not go anywhere without a mask nor venture out much at all for that matter. Honestly, most of these people are retired so leaving their house outside of a grocery run is unnecessary anyway. We will see how this goes over in a couple of weeks. I see people here locally still distancing without getting weird about it. Mostly the people that aren't distancing while out are family members (restaurants, sidewalks, shopping) and they are already exposed to one another. Strangers are still by and large trying keep some distance between themselves.

Waiting for the data from the weekend to be updated. I tend to think the spike was from the initial reopening of things coupled with Memorial Day folks eat up with cabin fever. Add in increased testing availability along with 48 hour results, the case lode was inevitably going to increase. I suspect a plateau here shortly or even the start of a gradual downward trend.

SC had a couple of days with higher than normal number of deaths. Yesterday it went back to the prior levels. That is the one statistic I am keeping a keen eye on. We all know it's highly contagious, but how lethal is it really? Another statistic that has slowly inched down is the percentage of deaths in younger people. It was extremely low to begin with, but seemingly all deaths now are almost exclusively in older folks and the elderly. So in SC if you are 50 and younger, you have a 99% survival rate. The median age of death is 76 years-old. Positive tests are at 40% for the over 60 demographic, however, they make up 88% up all deaths. Breaking it down even further, if you take the median death age of 76-years old and look at the 70+ demographic, they comprise a mere 13% of positive tests, but are 67% of all deaths (2/3). In short, folks need to be careful and if you are elderly, literally like your life depends on it.

As the positive cases increase in SC, the death rate continues to slowly go down. The daily number of deaths have increased slightly. Hopefully that trend does't continue and is a momentary blip.

^ This. I have seen some way out poo conspiracies, especially the once in a blue moon I take a peek in the dungeon otherwise known as the TB. Basically people are going to believe what they want to. Was it as widespread as this nurse claims? Who knows? But even if it was happening on a small scale, it's too much. Perhaps it was limited to just this one hospital. Still too much. Possibly the hospital overall has good record and some greedy hospital administrators made these decisions and decent people were just following orders. Still too much. It amazes me how people's moral compass doesn't always point north depending on the narrative. Just put it like this, HYPOTHETICALLY, if she made another video and says that she overheard the hospital administrator claim these orders came directly from the white house, these same skeptical people would all of a sudden swear by her story.