45catfan

For a 6th round pick, you are taking a gamble anyhow. I don't like the really big guys like Slanton and Shelvin. Once DTs get north of 330, they are basically glorified speed bumps to simply occupy O-linemen. I think Rhule values DTs that can get up the field, especially those from a 1-tech spot.

My take based on availability (top 2 QBs 100% gone): A) Lance/Fields B) Sewell C) Slater D) Pitts E) Trade down We know Lawrence and Wilson are gone. Miami, Philly or Detroit will take the top WR. One of the two between Fields and Lance will be 99.9% gone. That's four selections leaving at least one of those options unless another WR is selected. My thought is we are left with the option of Slater or a trade down. I don't like Surtain at #8, BTW. You only take generational corners like Revis in the top 10 and while very good, he is not that.

This is all about taking value in the draft. CB was the last glaring hole heading into the draft. I had been drafting two corners in the majority of my mocks. Now we don't have to reach for any needs.

FWIW, I've been doubling down at DT and using one of our 6th rounders on Bobby Brown or Tonga for a 1-tech. That way we have a bunch of young studs on rookie deals in the middle of the D-line.

I've been mocking Togiai with out 4th rounder a good bit. He gets after the QB and would be a nice 3-tech for us. Him or Williams for La. Tech.

Yup and Fields/Lance are much better prospects than Love. You can never have too many good options at QB and besides, Sam Darnold is no Aaron Rogers.

I do. You draft the guy, period. You have an ace of spades in your back pocket. a) Competition for Darnold--he can't rest on his laurels. Getting pushed by Walker or Grier? L-O-L!!!!! b) If Darnold doesn't work out, we are not back in the same spot by already drafting his replacement. c) If Darold doesn't work out, it gives the rookie a year to learn the NFL and our scheme. d) If Brady works magic with Daronld, we have a HUGE bargaining chip with a 1st round QB in trade. e) We could be a cherry scenario of having a starting level QB and a starting-caliber backup.

Watson's team made waves one year despite the talent on their roster. The Texans had a much superior roster to the Jets this entire time. Look, I'm no Darnold fanboy, but I will acknowledge the dude had crap coaching, crap talent and crap culture around him (otherwise known as the New York Jets organization) compared to most of the rest of the League. He very well may be damaged goods, but for essentially a 2nd round pick, I think it's a smart gamble considering he was considered arguably the best QB in his draft class at the time. Lastly, it sealed the fact Teddy is out the door.

I honestly think this board suffers from Post-Traumatic-Hurney Syndrome. Rational moves like this really screws with how they have been wired all these many years. It does not compute with them. Minds are literally fried. Going back to the Watson asking price several weeks ago, that on the other hand, the treasure trove we would have shipped to Houston somehow made sense! We are so used to getting royally screwed over in our trades and mind-numbing bloated contracts being thrown around that the Darnold trade is bad because, I assume, they can't wrap their head's around it. It's a reclamation project on a cheap (for a QB) rookie deal that we can be out form under in 24 months (or earlier) if Darnold doesn't work out. We lost a end-of-round pick in the 6th (comp pick) and a 4th of little consequence. The way I look at it is we lost a 2nd if Darnold is beyond fixing. I mean Darnold has to be more productive than Greg Little--our 2nd rounder of 2019 that currently warms the bench.

Cut it out, man. You are using logic and you know that's not allowed around here.

And some more camp bodies at corner. It's at the bottom of the Ivy article. Funny, even Gantt knows they are camp fodder. It was like an afterthought: 'Oh yeah, here are a couple DBs we signed too.' Lol, when a player gets one, solitary sentence on being signed to the team, well you know... Besides Ivey, A Pair of CBs Signed

^^^^This. Since when did a 2nd rounder become the Holy Grail? I mean over half the board was willing to part with our 1st rounders until 2024 to get Watson, but now somehow we have put all our eggs in one basket just because we shipped off next year's 2nd round pick? The absurd logic of the Huddle never seems to astound me.

We were going heavy OL this draft anyway. At least that's how I saw it.

Yes, but many of the tackles in the 2nd are RTs and the few LTs project better to guard. I would persoanlly switch that sentiment in regards to CBs and tackles. Agreed, the Elfein and Erving signings were bad, especially Erving. If he's our starting LT on opening day, we are in for a LONG year. Sorry, the QB is in for a LONG year.

Bingo! My gut tells me Moton and agent are playing hard ball and the reason a new deal hasn't been struck yet. Right tackle's contracts are generally straight forward. I think they are angling for swing tackle or mid-tier left tackle money.

Either way it's a win-win and by trading for Darnold the Panthers at least have the luxury of making that decision. I can't stress this enough, Darnold was all about closing the door on Teddy MUCH more so than trying to read the tea leaves on the QBs heading into draft night. Bank on it.

How? If QB #3 or #4 falls to #8. Why? It's a cheaper version of what we gave Teddy and with one less year. Also Grier & Walker are clipboard holders/only break in case of and emergency types of backups. This is the NFL, stiff competition is needed at ALL positions unless they are top 3 in their respective position in the League. So no, Tom Brady, Aaron Rogers and Patrick Mahommes don't need competition, but Sam Darold does.

I wasn't trying to be snarky, but he literally popped into my head when you asked for a comp. You know what did it? I thought of QBs on sh!tty teams when I was growing up and the Bucs were the laughing stock of the League and I went "Oh, Steve Young!"

One immediately popped into my head-Steve Young

Things happen for a reason and honestly the asking price for Watson was WAY too steep. People are grumbling about a 2nd next year for Darnold versus multiple 1sts for Watson.

The only difference is we don't hate the Chiefs and they don't kick our a$$ year in and year out--many times twice a season.

I'm convinced it was a CYA move to keep from doing something they may have regretted on draft night out of desperation.

Of course they would. A-holes!

I swear I had no idea this was going down today, lol!!!! I was doing this mock purely off the rumor mill that the Jets were shopping Darold and we were (obviously) in the market for a QB. Complete coincidence.

You get the Chargers scenario where they had Drew Brees and still drafted Phillip Rivers (technically Eli). Not the worst thing in the world to have two top-flight QBs on cheap deal and get to sort out which one you really want to keep. Knowing us, we'll ship the better one off like the Chargers did Brees.