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The Jimmy Johnson Trade Value Chart
45catfan replied to theinstrumental's topic in Carolina Panthers
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I wonder of the 155 prospects, how deep they have the WRs and CBs...the deepest groups of the class? Maybe 15-20 deep? That may seem high, but remember positions like RB, TE and QB aren't going to hit double digits on their board.
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Only 250-something are going to be drafted, so it really doesn't matter how many UDFA-types got agent representation. Maybe, just maybe, this is the reason why we are not leaving so many openings for UDFAs this year. We hit on our draftable players and the handful of camp bodies we sign after the draft will be just that...camp bodies. Honestly, we keep 1-2 of these guys a year as cusp roster guys. Not that big of a deal that we are only bringing in about half the number we normally would this year. I know Marty Hurney is heart-broken he doesn't have nearly 2,000 diamond-in-the-rough guys to pick from this year. With the numbers so low, maybe he actually finds that hidden gem. Eh, that's Washington's problem now.
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The Jimmy Johnson Trade Value Chart
45catfan replied to theinstrumental's topic in Carolina Panthers
Most trade value charts are based off Jimmy's, so while I voted "no, others" his chart set the standard that others modeled theirs after. Truth be known, there are only subtle differences anyway. Most start at 3000 and work the way down to 1. The biggest difference with the contemporary charts is the 7th round is basically weighted the same where Johnson's still placed value throughout the round. -
The “Deep OT class” may not be as deep at LT in scouts eyes
45catfan replied to ncfan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Tackle is deep for RT and developmental LTs. Day one starters at LT are Sewell & Slater and obviously KC had no shot at them. They are in 'win-now' mode so no time for a rookie LT to slowly develop. Tackle "not being deep" has to be taken with some perspective. Day one starting LTs? Nope, only two. The tackle class overall? Yes, it has some really good depth. -
I see what you did there. Getting nervous, lol?
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Chiefs got screwed. However, if they think he's the missing piece to another Super Bowl run, then they did what they had to do to ensure that. Waaaaaay too steep for me. The Darnold trade keeps looking better and better as long he just doesn't flat out suck.
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-McNeill-NT -Togiai/Williams-3-tech -Rogers- slot WR -Adebo- outside corner -Chritensen/Walker-LT -Brown-RT -Roche-DE (Rotational 3rd DE) If we had another pick or two, throw in TE Jordan and/or Trask as a developmental QB. I would have no complaints with that draft.
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Man, I wish we had another 3rd round pick. The middle of the round is STACKED! 78. DL Alim McNeill North Carolina State 79. DL Tommy Togiai Ohio State 80. WR Amari Rodgers Clemson 81. S Andre Cisco Syracuse 82. CB Paulson Adebo Stanford 83. QB Kyle Trask Florida 84. RB Kenneth Gainwell Memphis 85. TE Tommy Tremble Notre Dame 86. WR Nico Collins Michigan 87. OT Brady Christensen BYU 88. OT Spencer Brown Northern Iowa 89. DL Milton Williams Louisiana Tech 90. TE Brevin Jordan Miami (FL) 91. TE Hunter Long Boston College 92. OT Walker Little Stanford 93. EDGE Quincy Roche Miami (FL) I mean, I could make an entire draft just from this section alone and be thrilled with it.
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I'm going to puke when I see a TE wearing a single digit.
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Hidden Gem on Day 3? Simi Fehoko, WR from Stanford
45catfan replied to blueandblackattack's topic in 2023 NFL Draft
Yep, I've mocked him a few times now. He's actually in my latest mock. I know the Panthers are looking for a tall red zone target since they have Zoomed with Strachen (sp), the small school WR product that's 6'5". Fehoko would be more polished coming in being from a Power 5 School. -
I agree that a trade before the draft is highly unlikely. We wait and see if a QB needy team behind us somehow misses out on one. That would be the team(s) we pitch an offer to even if the trade includes a conditional late day 3 pick in 2022. Remember, we are down two picks next year, so getting the draft capital in 2022 is probably better than getting immediate reimbursement this year.
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Kristen Balboni introduces Sam Darnold to southern foods.
45catfan replied to Captain Morgan's topic in Carolina Panthers
The ONLY way I will touch liver. Sliced thin, cooked well (crispy) and on a sandwich with yellow mustard. I'm surprised that no one else called out the potato salad. Southern potato salad is yellow, not white. He got served white potato salad. Dead give away it's not the real deal. -
Kristen Balboni introduces Sam Darnold to southern foods.
45catfan replied to Captain Morgan's topic in Carolina Panthers
That was not southern potato salad. -
Yup, but as I said, teams that need one will still take one. It' not like they are going to say, "this year's crop sucks so we are going to leave a gaping hole at DT." I never said it was bumper crop for DTs. What I did say is draft trends say that 'x' amount are going to be draft no matter the strength of the class. I still believe that.
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I really like the Sewell pick since the QBs are gone.
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Are You Really Against Fields or Lance if they fall to #8...
45catfan replied to SetfreexX's topic in Carolina Panthers
That is exactly where we will be if he struggles. The rest of the roster is good enough to keep us in games. I doubt he's so awful that he tosses picks on game winning drives in multiple games *cough* Teddy *cough*. I mean the UNC homers are building up Howell to be Trevor Lawrence Jr, but in reality next year's crop of QBs is nowhere near this draft class. What will be REALLY bad is if we are not sold on Darnold and have to give up the farm for a QB in next year's draft that is the equivalent of QB5 in this class, which we have a shot at. -
Are You Really Against Fields or Lance if they fall to #8...
45catfan replied to SetfreexX's topic in Carolina Panthers
Really, what are those odds? He can't be worse than Teddy and if we had a legit QB we were fighting for a wildcard spot last year. Yet, multiple extra high picks somehow doesn't help the team????? -
Are You Really Against Fields or Lance if they fall to #8...
45catfan replied to SetfreexX's topic in Carolina Panthers
That's fine if we pass on Fields and/or Lance as long as we get the capital for passing. Someone will jump up. Taking a non-QB position at #8 with one or both still on the board and not moving back makes zero sense. Actually, it's utterly idiotic. -
Are You Really Against Fields or Lance if they fall to #8...
45catfan replied to SetfreexX's topic in Carolina Panthers
That wasn't opening day of offseason training either. Again, they were there for the first one, that should be enough. Not everyone had a second Pro Day, actually, nearly all prospects don't. -
It all depends on who we take in the first. Otherwise it's just throwing a laundry list of names out there.
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Are You Really Against Fields or Lance if they fall to #8...
45catfan replied to SetfreexX's topic in Carolina Panthers
Maybe the Panthers know he's not going to be there at #8, so why bother? According to you he's such a risk, but yet he could very possibly go ahead of Fields at #4. -
Their stats breakdown is very good and analysis is insightful, but they do think they are the best minds in football, which they are not. Crunching numbers and providing insight based off that data does not make you a great evaluator of talent, it just means you can interpret the produced results. There is a human element to evaluation that numbers simply can't define...character and intangibles.