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"But Bryce was turnover free!" Yeah, at best, a game manager. AT BEST...

Oh, I am well aware. That's why him having Mendoza at #5 and not #1 is a sigh of relief. Going back to Mateer, Brady Quinn put him on Mel's radar, so it's not exactly the kiss of death he's ranked so high.

Lol, a #1 overall QB backing up another high first rounder? We would be the laughing stock of the NFL. I mean, even more so than now. If we are even thinking of a first round QB next April, Bryce has to be gone. Dalton, not so much, especially if Canales is retained. He already knows the system.

I disagree. The 2024 draft was a once a generation draft, so it's a clear and obvious outlier. It's going to be a typical 3-4 first round QB draft. Mateer, Mendoza, Nussmeir and Moore (if declares) all have hallmarks of a QB1. The only group that needs a QB to help their evaluation is WRs, possibly TEs. I can tell you right now that Tet is legit, XL is a bum, Coker is a WR3/WR4 and Renfro is a bandage. Horn isn't getting the snaps regardless of the QB to evaluate. Moore, well...lol. Swapping QBs isn't going to change my mind on any of that.

Here's Mel's take. It scares me I agree with him on Mateer, but the rest of it is vintage Mel where he's on the hype train with these guys. I'm comforted that he has Mendoza #5.

Woof. That would suck, but knowing the Panthers, isn't out of the question.

If Tepper doesn't give the green light to bench Young, then they can point to the fact they are saddled with a QB that doesn't give them a chance to win consistently. This is ALL Tepper's making. He knows it and why I think no matter how bad it gets, Morgan and Canales gets to start '26, most certainly without Bryce Young. Then if the suckitude continues, heads will roll.

Reich got so screwed over. Brand new staff and a rookie Bryce Young, yet got the shortest leash.

There's the catch-22. We win a few meaningless games and end up in that 7-10 draft slot purgatory we seem to always be in. Yes, we get a good player, but just miss out on the elite ones. I know the staff is coaching for their jobs, but it seems to be a vicious cycle that keeps us where we are today.

Safest bets as of now are: 1) Mateer, 2a)Mendoza 2b) Moore 3) Nussmeir 4) Leavitt I am leery as heck about Allar, Sellers, Beck and Klubnik.

No, it's based on projection at the next level. Sellers definitely has the highest ceiling, but he also has one of the lowest floors.

Got it. Unless Dalton gets injured again, I really don't see them making a move. It's Bryce and Dalton. Morgan will make it this year, I think Canales will too. Both will likely get to start the '26 season before the plug gets pulled. Tepper loves his in-season firings, but I think this year is too soon from Dave's perspective namely because he hand picked both of these guys. Even by his impatient nature, it would look hasty as heck to pull the plug on HIS guys in under two seasons.

You could always sit the rookie a portion of the season or all of it. The Giants sat Dart a quarter of the season, the Chiefs sat Mahommes for a while. Just getting a vet doesn't preclude you from draft a rookie QB. Actually, it's the smart way to go. At #1 overall, it's tough not to roll the dude out there game 1. Outside of the top 5? You have reason to justify not throwing the rookie to the wolves.

Tankaton's updated projections: Moore is #29 under the banner.

Nope. Draft a 2026 QB in the top 10.

99% of fans? No. Media types with agendas? Absolutely.

It would have been more accurate if you left out Dalton's drive. Also, I doubt Bryce could have done anything on that final drive, he was rattled.

Except score. Those stats also includes Dalton's drive where he went straight down the field and scored. Oddly enough, with the same banged up OL and same thin WR corps that people are using as an excuse for Bryce's struggles. Dalton got 39% of Young's passing yards in one drive.

This is what you get when you have betas at QB and HC. Morgan talks about dawgs, well he needs to get a new QB and HC. Little man and head cheerleader are far from dawgs.

By the end of the game? Correct. How about match the Pats score for score or at least sustain drives that would have kept their offense off the field for one or two of those scoring drives? There was a 40-40 TIE last night in the NFL. There are such things as offensive shootouts/bad defensive efforts. Just because one or two phases are sucking in a game for a team doesn't exonerate the third from having to do their job.

The opening game scripted plays. It was down hill from there.

Yup, hindsight is 20/20 there LG. I was told the League couldn't force JR to sell, while technically true, I'm sure there was a TON of pressure and persuasion tactics being used behind the scenes. IIRC, Tepper wasn't even the highest bidder, Navarro(?) was but he wasn't the RICHEST bidder. Tepper had the biggest wallet in the pool of bidders. This is the reason the Walton family owns the Broncos even though there were people like Manning and Elway in ownership groups that would have made WAY more sense for the League.

I haven't bought Panthers merch since Tepper has bought the team. That and the jerseys are Nike. The last thing I bought was a hat around 2017.

That's the problem with Bryce...he's not a tide that can lift all boats. He needs a team that is clicking in all three phases to be successful. This is the Carolina Panthers, how often does that happen? We need a QB that can overcome some obstacles. How often are we going to have a Falcons-type game from two weeks ago where everything goes our way? Once, maybe twice a year? We need a QB that can win in spite of failures not win because it's a near perfect game by the entire team. Let alone how the Falcons simply imploded, not many NFL teams do that often.