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Lol, how? I know Urban Myer is available, but come on... It really can't get worse than Rhule. He's the floor, it can only go up for this franchise once he's gone.

Tank for '23, so I went with 'roll with Sam Darnold.'

The very reason I DON'T want a competitive season this year...Darnold AND Rhule will hopefully be gone in 2023. I could deal with free Sunday's this fall knowing the following year Panthers football will be worth watching again.

Here's one that I'd be happy with: *Pick #180 covered by the banner is Jerome Ford-RB (Cincy)

Don't trade, suck with Darnold and in a year hopefully all will be right with Rhule fired and a high draft pick to take the next franchise QB.

Agreed. Dude is straight up a race baiter. He doesn't want to be a QB in the League, he just wants the platform the NFL would provide him to peddle his nonsense.

Happy Easter everyone!

This is what happens when you WAY overpay a mediocre player...they go full-tilt diva.

Or the injury bug comes back again, which is very possible. With RBs, especially as the League has ever increasingly gone pass happy, mid-rounds usually have some dudes with a good deal of value. They fall due to no fault of their own, but due to the RB position being devalued by a QB driven League. Again, top 3 rounds (assuming we had those picks 2-3) nope, I'd pass...but round 4? Sure if the value is too good to pass up...I'm all for it. If a top 100 pick on our board is there in the 4th round and happens to be a RB, I wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger.

Eh, we took Hubbard to be the #3 guy. I'm not sold on Hubbard like apparently Mrs. Rhule is. He lacks vision and has questionable hands. He's an outside the tackles kind of player, which is ideal for a 3rd down back, but that requires good hands. Foreman is a rental. Most of these one-year guys are playing for a bigger payday in 2023. They are playing on the assumption Rhule is a lame duck coach and trying to get snaps/film on them on this otherwise thin roster. Foreman is counting on CMC missing time and getting significant #1, if not short yardage/goal line snaps and taking that to a bigger FA deal in 2023

Ridder and Corrall are trade back options. Willis is the only one of those three we pull the trigger on at #6. I don't agree with Willis at #6, but it's the likely scenario if we take one of the three staying in that slot.

Set your team up for success at other key positions in years with a bad QB crop. Teams can do what has been proven to work by building a solid team with all the essential parts and draft your franchise QB a subsequent year with a solid QB crop. Putting a rookie QB on a crappy team works out hardly ever. Putting a rookie QB on an otherwise playoff ready roster, that has worked out pretty well.

Replacement for Shi Smith apparently.

These RBs could be there with our 4th rounder. Mid-rounds is where the value is this draft for RBs. Even if we had our 2nd and 3rd rounder, I wouldn't be for drafting a RB with either of them.

* Actually selected by the Chargers, but that was a draft day trade.

Even Stafford didn't win it with his draft team and Peyton got his last one (as we painfully know) with the Broncos. So ELI MANNING is the the outlier in the whole equation to win multiple SBs with his draft team during that time.

Which comes full circle back to where some say in a good QB class like last year, the top guy this year would have been QB five last year. So taking one of these guys makes little sense. Heck, I've seen mocks this offseason where no QBs go in round one. Undoubtedly one or two will get drafted in the first round out of positional importance and desperation; not because they are actually worth the pick.

The Browns have three options, keep him, cut him or trade him EATING some of his cap. No team will take 100% of Baker's cap money. The Browns are behind the 8 ball. They are in a losing situation in trade negotiations.

So breaking down last year's playoff QBs, I found some interesting things. Starting off, 8 QBs were first rounders versus 6 that were not. That's one QB from being a 50/50 split. I will argue in a moment why it SHOULD be a *50/50 split. Of those 8, 6 were top 10 selections...Mahommes barely making the cut. Only THREE were top 6 selections. Those 3 were ALL #1 overall selections; Murray, Stafford and Burrow. Back to my *exception. While Tannehill was a top 10 selection (#8 overall) he was a reclamation project when he signed with the Titans and was as good as washed up. He went to the ideal situation. That being said, his draft team...the Dolphins gave up on him and for THEIR purposes was a draft whiff. So unless you have the top overall pick, picking a first round QB is a crap shoot. You had Allen 2018, Mahommes 2017, *Tannehill 2012 and Big Ben 2004 as those QBs within our draft range this year.

I also agree with him that teams probably don't study draft history as well as they should.

Paraphrasing here to encapsulate his point, 'in 25 years only 8 first round QBs played through their 12th season, 78% of them were projected as ELITE QB prospects.' Sure, injury played into some of that, but thinking drafting a first round QB that sets the organization up for the decade is almost a pipe dream.

It's the big 3 OTs, trade back or worst case scenario take the best edge guy. If all OTs are gone, one of the edge rushers HAS to drop, either Walker or Thibodeaux. I'd prefer Walker, put him on the strong side and move Burns to the weak side. YGM is probably going to be a career backup and the rest of the supporting cast is marginal. I still can't believe we re-sign Haynes. I guess as a reserve he's okay, but if pressed into starting duties due to injury? That's a definite no.

Yes! I like to see that we are looking at RBs. Why? I'm not sold on Hubbard. CMC could get hurt at any time and Foreman is likely a one-year rental. It wouldn't shock me if CMC stays healthy this year that the Panthers may offload him (his contract mainly) before the 2023 season. Teams need to see he can play an entire season first before any realistic trade. Without drafting a RB (or another FA) that would leave Hubbard as the #1 entering 2023 given the chips falls that way, which is unacceptable.

I'm a fan of waiting until '23 for the QB. A deeper class means you don't need to have a top 5 pick to get a solid QB. If we are smart and get the LT this draft that will allow the '23 rookie QB to stay upright most of the time.

Zappe is likely the only one left when we pick in the 4th round. The others are #6 prospects and trade back guys either mid-round 1 or an anquired 2nd rounder in the case of Ridder and Howell. It seems we are keeping all options open for a QB.