45catfan

Projected 'can't miss' and 'actual can't' miss are two different things. Actual 'can't misses' are EXTREMELY rare whereas projected 'can't misses' are talked up most drafts.

This QB class screams 2014. This is the top four: Bortles was a reach out of desperation. Realistically he had no business going quite that high. Probably will happen this year with Corral. The rest of the QB class was mediocre. Pickett will go higher than Manziel somewhere 9-21. Willis is in the mold of Bridgewater and Howell will go in the top of the 2nd round like Carr.

Actually it's just the opposite. Usually a QB class is talked up being better than they actually are. Will the 2020 or 2021 QB classes be a good as they as the were hyped to be? Chances are, probably not. To my point, if the draftnics that are usually QB gung-ho are so ambivalent about this QB class, that's really REALLY telling.

This as Rhule is still leading this team next year. Lol!!!!!

This was fans reactions to the Bears drafting Trubisky at #2. You know, drafting a QB is always the best solutions.

A lot of years actually. Only 5 times since 2000 has a non-QB went #1. Were these QB actually the top-rated guys on draft boards? It's a mixed bag, but I agree not exclusively. The tell-tail sign of how good the class is when a QB is drafted #1 over is where the 2nd and 3rd guys go. It's a really good measure. We shall see after the draft what teams thought of this QB class. Houston at #3 really needs a QB and if they go FA or stick with Davis Mills over Pickett/Corral that will be very telling.

Quenton Nelson over say...Baker Mayfield, sure. Especially if they grade out that way in the pre-draft process. One is a corner stone and the other keeps you a middling franchise.

Drafting a QB #5 with medical flags actually speaks to how well thought of Tua was. Remember, he went just ahead of Herbert who had no medical red flags. Ron took Chase young (defensive junky), The Lions were still all-in on Stafford, the Giants had just drafted Jones the year prior. Had there been a need, Tua and Herbert could actually have gone higher.

Wrong, you draft the best players, period. If at #6 there is a player rated higher than your top QB, you take that player. Believe me there absolutely will be. QB desperation on this board reeks of a geek hanging out after school to watch cheerleading practice from the bleachers by himself. It's just sad.

Medicals was his only real concern. Talent and production was not questioned by anyone. Stop being petty.

Bingo! I didn't like Fields or Jones. They will be average QBs. Jones will likely have a decent career if he stays at New England under Belichick...strictly as a game manager. That said, we don't have the staff nor structure to coddle a QB like Jones nor develop a guy like Fields. So you are hoping to draft one of these guys, prey they don't get David Carr'ed and in 2023 when Rhule is fired we can undo the the damage done in the guy's rookie year with a new staff? Brilliant!!!!

Rhule is still here, that won't be too difficult.

2020: Burrow, Tua and Herbert...all were considered can't miss prospects. Yes, 3 is rare, but at least 2 Qbs nearly every draft class. I have yet to see the praises sung of Corral and Pickett. Don't get it twisted, these are the only two that have a shot at #6. Reach isn't a strong enough word to describe Howell and Willis at #6. Desperate would be more accurate.

I know your boy Howell is in the mix and that's probably skewing your thoughts. What I meant by no alpha is there's not a clear-cut, low risk--almost can't miss--prospect. So by your assessment if the top QB went at say pick #12, you've nailed your next franchise QB because he's the first one off the board? News flash, the lower the top positional player goes, usually is an indication of how weak the overall positional class is.

That's pretty? In most drafts there's 1 or 2, a sometimes even 3 QB prospects that draft pundits describe as can't miss. Not one of these guys are in that category.

The problem is the is no alpha in this litter. Yes, we could take the top QB this draft, but what does that actually mean? It means we get a QB that in lat year's class would have been battling Jones for the 4th dude off the board. Before you sing Jones' praises, he went to the one team that everyone said he would have to go to to succeed, New England. I mean, could you imagine Jones' year if we took him at #8? Dude would already be David Carr'ed!

Zappe is the one chance I would take and he would likely be there in the 4th round. I've watch a little bit on him, but he strike's me as a poor man's Drew Brees coming out of college. Brees was a 2nd rounder if I remember correctly. Same as Zappe, lack of size and perceived limited athleticism are the biggest knocks. It certainly isn't based on production, because the production is there albeit at a smaller school.

Yup, but you also only find the last busted boxes on the shelf waiting to the last minute on Christmas Eve to buy. That's this QB draft in a nutshell, there's 2-3 that could-possibly-maybe turn into a franchise QB, but the packing is very questionable. We waited until the 11th hour and now are desperate. So do we still take a chance on these noticeably flawed products anyway? My answer is no.

I doubt anyone disagrees you need a good QB to win, but you just don't take stabs at it. Taking QBs out of desperation will get you Bridgewater, Darnold and a washed up Cam Newton. Drafting QBs is even a bigger crap shoot. For the record I liked both Allen and Lance coming out of college. Heck, I was the driver of the Trey Lance bandwagon last year on the Huddle.

"Buffalo scored a touchdown on all seven of its possessions outside of a kneel-down at the end of the game, becoming the first team in the Super Bowl era to score a TD on each of its first seven drives of a playoff game, according to the Elias Sports Bureau. The Bills also became the first team in NFL history to go an entire playoff game without a punt, field goal or turnover." This is what a competent offense looks like

I'd rather trade a current player than trade back in round 1.

Okay name 3 more in recent years that weren't #1 overall picks...because we aren't drafting there. It's easy to name the exception. Rhule can't and won't get that lucky.

When we get some JAG OC, Rhule will be talking him up like he's Jim Morrison reincarnated. 'I swear he's a rock star!'

Rhule can't afford to draft a rookie QB. If he does, dude literally planned his own funeral. No amount of lotion and reach-arounds can please Tepper with another losing season.

I agree he can be too physical at times and get over-extended, but remember, he's still learning after playing guard most of his career. I'd rather see this from a guy still learning than a dude that's been playing the position every since he's stepped on a football field. He's smart, athletic, has a dog mentality and apparently loves the game. He has to refine technique, that will come with time and reps.