45catfan

True and why giving up 3 chances at a home run in favor of 1 doesn't sit well with me.

Opportunity costs. It's a real thing. Zach Wilson is one of many, many, many examples. Yes, it takes about 3 years to find out if the QB is a bust or not, in the mean time we are given up 1st round talent that's not a QB with the trade collateral. Franchise-type talent isn't only found in QBs and the type of talent we forfeit trading away with the next 3 years worth of first rounders.

Funny, I think you want us being the Jets an Browns endlessly drafting QB busts.

Gotta stop like us fans are making the calls. If dude bust, there is going to be a lot of "oh well, at least we gave it shot" comments. Why? Absolutely zero skin in the risk. It's easy to gamble with someone else's money.

Yeah, at some point. I've made my case why we should wait another year.

The circumstances/factors with other teams doesn't affect one iota if the QB will succeed or fail. I get while everyone is so gung-ho for this to happen now, but it doesn't change the fact that years of evidence shows the QB is much more likely to bust than be a superstar.

BIG IF.

Missing out on 3 cornerstone pieces isn't crippling? Wow! If the QB pans out, it still hurts, just much, much less. If dude flops, then yes, fugged doesn't even begin to describe the situation. The problem with the 'move up' crowd is they are so desperate for a QB, while many say they "understand" the consequences of said QB busting, honestly, they really don't.

Sorry, I don't see an Elway, Aikman or Peyton Manning in this year's draft and those were the three. Peyton didn't even win his second ring with his draft team. Now we are down to Elway and Aikman. Elway didn't get his until seasons 15 and 16, which happened to be his last two. That kind of longevity with a single team is unheard of nowadays. That leaves Aikman as the only one to win multiple Championships early on with his draft team. Looks statistically sound choice to blow up our next three drafts to move up, right? Statistics could care less about a fans base's misery index.

Speculation my dude. Which #1 overall picks as a QB has multiple Championships? I can think of 4 off the top of my head in the past 40 years. Actually 3* because even though Eli went #1 overall he actually got traded to a different team.

In other words, If we move to #1 and the dude flops, we are hamstrung until 2026. Wonderful! I get the other end of the argument too, but the downside is much worse than the upside is great.

Tom Brady

I don't have the patience to watch the Combine, but some round 3 picks (where currently being mocked) are really intriguing to me. Brown, McBride and Spears are some guys I want to see their Combine results.

I wish we had more picks because I would like to draft at least one OL for depth or if we can't work something out with Bozeman. With all the other holes with more priority, selecting an O-linman is a luxury pick.

Which QB combine results are these? The one thing he measured well at was his height...the ONLY thing he ZERO control over.

^^^This. A great athlete does not necessarily a great QB make. Is AR a great athlete? 100%, no question. Is AR a great QB? Not at this time and the bold portion of that report does not bode well for him either.

An extra 1st. Moving to #3 may just be this years and '24 first along with some other late picks. I'm not sure if you are aware, but just moving from number 3 to 1 is 800 points, or equivalent to the #21 pick....which happens to still be a first round value.

Sit put at #9. The underwear olympics gets guys almost as excited as an issue of Hustler magazine.

Partially true.

Rest in peace Mr Richardson. Most of the Panthers faithful are thankful for the NFL franchise brought to the Carolinas so we could have a team we could call our very own. I've been a Panthers fan since day 1.

McShay said Young feels pressure well and that is what makes him "special". Great, but how about his QB passing skills? It's one thing to know where the pressure is coming from, but the other KEY part is accurately delivering the ball anywhere down the field, sometimes into very tight windows, with timing and anticipation. Feeling the pressure and escaping it is a wonderful trait, but so is successfully delivering the ball regularly.

There isn't a AR comp, but Levis--> Bortles (strong arm, prototypical size) Young-->Manziel (undersized, athletic, moxy). Stroud-->Bridgewater (checks all the boxes). You left our Carr too, he and Jimmy G. were my main point. Two second rounders ended up saving that entire draft class. Hooker could end up being like Carr from this class as the the most accomplished when all said and done. Probably another day 2 or day 3 QB will trend like Jimmy G.

It means it was a QB needy draft, and it very much is. No teams other than the Cardinals and Lions are 100% sold their QBs. The Cardinals don't necessarily love Kyler either, they are married to that contract though. Th Lions are rolling with Goff. This is a decent QB draft and only because of the top 2 guys.

I could see this QB class mirroring the 2014 QB draft class.

Brissett on a 2-year deal is the way to go, trade back, get more capital and take the rookie QB plunge next year. I've thought about this a good deal and this seems the most realistic scenario for early success. If Reich/staff sew up the rest of the roster over the next two drafts and FA THEN drop the rookie QB in on a nearly complete team, even the rookie struggles the rest of the roster is strong enough to grind through the growing pains.