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1) Fox 2) Rivera 3) Capers Fox never got to draft a franchise QB (Clausen in the lame duck year doesn't count). He was the most consistent winner though. The only reason I slightly hesitated with him is how he quit on this organization. Rivera had the best nucleus of of young talented players and still couldn't get us over the top or even make us consistent winners. He SHOULD be #1, but couldn't maximize the most talented rosters we've ever had. Capers was able to cobble together a bunch of aging cast-offs and make them winners in a short time, but wasn't able to see that he needed to flip the roster to a younger one in time to save his job.

The guy can chase a Natty and get paid via NIL and STILL get the $10M-$30M in the 2024 draft. That's the dynamic NIL has brought about. Not to mention the sponsorships like cars, clothing etc... It really brings the BMOC meaning to full fruition. I"m sure Stroud is not thinking somehow he's dropping to a 2nd rounder--or lower, just because he stays in school. He probably will declare today, but I wouldn't be shocked one bit if he stayed. Personally, I hope he does. I want no part of this QB class--more precisely, what will be available to us when we pick. Stroud staying means Levis will be gone and *hopefully* AR too by pick #9.

Literally all but one other guy of the draft eligible OSU players in the top 250 prospects have declared. Did you mean just the top guy?

I wonder what the time deadline is tomorrow? There's about 10 top 100 prospects yet to declare according to one site. QB- Stroud WR- Addison, Johnston IOL- Van Pran Edge- Smith DB- Smith, Newton LB- Campbell TE- LaPorta RB- Charbonnet -I've mocked Campbell a TON, so that would suck if he stayed.

Remember Brown was a bust last year? No? I bet the Huddlers saying that won't remember saying it either.

Sorry, mid first round. Point being, we are pick #9, so as to value, he would be a bit of a reach.

I remember last coaching cycle there were a ton of hot new names floated around and Doug Pederson (SB winning coach) was an afterthought. I personally thought it was strange. But hey, always chase the new hot name, right? The same reason I think people are sleeping on Frank Reich. I put him in Pederson's situation this year. Yeah, he's getting some luke warm interest like Pederson, but everyone is looking for the next Payton (back in the day) and McVay.

The 49ers won't move on from Lance this coming year. They have seen enough our of Purdy they finally cut the apron strings on Jimmy G and roll with those two. However, if Lance can't stay healthy next season or doesn't produce, then he could potentially be considered a bust. Sitting behind an successful incumbent QB in year 1 as a "growth year" and and getting hurt early on in year 2 doesn't necessarily mean he's a bust. Year three will be super important to the rest of his career though.

Here's why Stroud stays, OSU was this close to beating Georgia knows they would have walked over TCU. Secondly, He's got about a 50/50 shot of being a Texan if he does declare--does not want. Thirdly, he's probably top 3 hottest names in college football next year and the NIL money will be stupid. Lastly, Stroud is probably betting he'll still be a top 5 draft pick next year and while not going #1 overall (see Chicago/Texans hot mess) that's not necessarily a bad thing. The money isn't drastically different and won't spend the majority of his first contract trying to navigate a train wreck. It's not a stretch that Stroud has seen what has happened to former alum Justin Fields or even perhaps talked to him about this.

With less than 48 hours to go, a site I use states that Johnston and Addison are both still undeclared. That's the top two guys in this draft class! Jaxson Smith-Njiba would be the top guy in the class. Sites I visit have him mid-to-late round now.

And eventually you have to clear the books. The Saints have to do monetary gymnastics every offseason to get a few good FAs. Once their GM/ financial guys are eventually let go, the people replacing them will have a hell of a time getting their cap back into order.

Example #1. This was just for an average DT. So yes, they are already doing this and for JAG players, not even impact players. Matt Ioannidis Look at the money we are paying this guy years later just to make the numbers work for a year.

It's a shell game to an extent. Eventually you have to pay the piper. The Saints are figuring that out and the reason I think, in part, why McVay is stepping away from the Rams. The "burn out" excuse is a straw man. The Rams had about a 3-year window to make a run, they did it in year one, it imploded this year and the wheels h ve already fallen off for next year. After that, it's a full-blown rebuild. McVay has no intentions of sticking around for that, just like once Brees retired, Payton wasn't sticking around for the aftermath of the Saints forcing their championship window to stay open longer.

I get all that, but I think a lot of you are forgetting our cap situation this year. There is no "shopping spree" in FA this year. The last thing we want to do is start kicking the can down the road a la the Saints. Trade back this year, get most of our needs in the draft and next year when our cap should be (if we don't screw it up this offseason) in great shape, then go out and grab the few key pieces the team needs.

Normally I would agree, but remember, we are extremely cap poor this year and the last thing we need to do...ESPECIALLY with a new staff and club not contending is go out and blow a lot of money we don't have.

I'm great with that and in a slight trade back too. We need more picks. As much as I like Mayer, #9 is a little high for him in terms of value.

Yeah, about that. I know they will toy with the numbers some, but re-signing Bozeman, probably Sam, Eddy, Foreman and a few other role players to keep in house is going to leave us with very little for outside FAs. Remember we have only about $1M in cap and (-$14M) in effective cap.

Good approach, but we don't have 11 picks every draft to re-draft every position. At some point the evaluators have to hit their mark. We don't have enough picks THIS draft to fill all the holes we have, let alone re-draft for current positions where there isn't a hole.

We have to come away with MINIMUM a vertical threat TE, WR and RB on the offensive side. Not sexy but, DE, ILB and FS on the defensive side. That's about the entire draft. The very reason I want to TRADE BACK a time or two to pick up 2-3 more picks. We simply do not have enough to fill what we need. Still should get another LB (super thin now), slot WR, IOL and possibly a nickle corner. Can't get all that in 7 picks.

The only thing a about Johnston is he's a long-strider, kind takes him a second to get to top end speed.

Smaller and injured. Not a combination I am thrilled with.

You all might want to see your potential first round WR play tonight. I want to see how he plays versus that Georgia secondary.

Take out the NO game and Sam was like 61%. He had a bad game, every QB does. Bingo, Corral hasn't played an NFL snap. The unknown is always better, right? What if *gasp* Corral sucks? The Huddle has this fantasy with projecting players to be the next best thing--until they are not. Corral is likely to either be okay or suck. The margin is slim for him to be good-to-great. But hey, put him a pedestal before he takes his first regular season snap...it's what the Huddle does and what makes the vitriol so bad regarding players. Just because you build them up and they don't live up to your expectations resulting in slamming of the players after the fact. I'm good with Corral starting next year, but we better have a backup--well you know--if one is eventually 'required' in a benching scenario.

What is Corrall's? I'lll wait.

Sam hurt some of these guys feelings and must go. He wasn't a superstar so he must be torn down. Like you said, he's average and without knowing what Corrall is, is better to have at lest one known commodity on the roster at QB, even if that is an average player. The Huddle loves the unknown, if you can't tell. Corrall hasn't played a meaningful snap--name him the starter! Draft a QB that has tons of question marks, BOOM, STARTER! Then when crap blows up (which is obvious to some of us) the board goes into meltdown mode.