45catfan

Understanding sarcasm is an art. Our TE room is bad, but a job is a job especially if it's a promotion.

Perspective coaches look at the Panthers TE room and people wonder why that's the only positional group remaining with a vacancy.

Outside of a generational QB, they are ALL risks. If you follow the draft, usually it's the other way around--expectations are low for fringe QBs early on, one or two guys are hyped and then two, three or four more end up going in the first round (last year's crap class being an exception). There is no generational QB this draft, thus each of them have several questions. Beyond Stroud and Young, Levis and Richardson are more bust than boom prospects.

It usually who catches fire and there are several that could. The problem with Levis is he took a step backwards. Injuries happen, but he lost some weapons this past season. Williams and Maye are the obvious ones, but Pennix, Ward, McCall, Leary, Reed, Ewers, Daniels, Nix, Travis, Van Dyke, Jefferson, Hartman, Ulagalelei, Armstrong, Jurkovec, Rogers, Gabriel, Rising, Mordicai, Rattler and so on and so on and so on. That's not even considering the first year starters taking over guys getting drafted this year, that could come out after one season. It's deep and talented. I'd take nearly any of those guys NOW over Mckee in this draft and he's generally considered QB5/6. This draft was always light at the top, but several guys went back to school and gutted the middle rounds prospects. Most of those guys are out of eligibility after this season; they have to come out. If any of the transfers light it up with their new schools, their draft stock will skyrocket. It's hard to say now how may 1st rounders will be projected, but I would venture it could be as high as 6 or 7. Patience grasshopper.

Tells me all I need to know right there.

Moving up to the top 10 is not as pricey as moving up to the top 3.

Hard up for a 5'8 midget, a dude out of Kentucky whose stats suck and a RSO that can't hit a broad side of a barn, but MAN does he have an arm! Stroud's okay, but would have been QB 4 in the 2020 draft. But muh QB, I need muh QB!!!!

Have little clue about who's available then, huh?

Agreed on Hooker. Next draft is shaping up to be a doozy. The underclassmsn are boss and a TON of SR/RSR/GR QBs that are out of eligiblity. There's about 6 guys that were coming out this draft that stayed/transferred that are all coming out on top of all the others that will be declaring too. Some underclassmen will stay, still, it will be the draft to snag a QB. Granted we will miss out on Williams and Maye (if he declares) but still prime pickings should remain beyond that.

I'm actually on the 2024 train. We can't/won't get Young or Stround and the next two have HUGE question marks. Solidify the roster at other positions this year, get the bridge QB and draft the QB of the future next draft.

Levis will go top 10. AR-15 will likely go first round too, but teams know they are going to have to be patient with him, so where he goes is iffy. Not many teams have the luxury of waiting for rookies to develop. Heck, the Jets are jettisoning Wilson just after two seasons. Young and Stroud are plug/play. Levis could be too, but should sit a year. Richardson will bomb if he plays right away. I think most teams realizes he needs to sit. Again, not many teams can afford to draft a first round QB and sit him.

Exactly, and why I don't want him. He's too much of a project for a first rounder. Let some other team spend 2-3 years developing him. Vegas is drafting a QB. If we don't take him or the Saints, he definitely falls out of the top 15. Possibly the Ronskins/Commandos at #16.

The only way I want to draft Richardson is if he falls to the second round. Outside of that, it looks like Young, Stroud and Levis will be gone. Bridge QB is the way and rookie QB in 2024. Rhule couldn't find his way out of a wet paper sack, so there's a reason why this experiment didn't work well under his leadership(?). Give a competent staff a crack at this.

That's the reason I don't like the PFF simulator, everyone after Porter except for Dell is supposed to go WAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY before where you drafted them.

Because complete QBs rarely hit free agency.

REALLY good. I'm down with a 2-year rental. I'd rather go a cheaper route though, Minshew.

If you guys don't think Vegas is a prime player to draft a QB now, then I don't what else to say. Jarrett Stidham is their guy now...pffffftttttttt, ok.

Topped my list as soon as Indy let him go. Irsay is an Idiot, but the Panthers will benefit from it.

Frank Reich.

Normally I'm with you, but outside of Bozeman on a 'hometown' deal, can't agree with the rest. Good TEs can be had reasonably. No need to try get a top 3 FA TE. I'm not about moving up in the draft either.

I listened to one of his calls. He's okay at it, but not a natural like Olsen. Luke's calling is in coaching if he ever chooses to do so (beyond peewee).

No, but those are just the basic moves that a cap novice like me can easily see on the surface. I'm sure there's more tricks to get further under the cap. As long as we don't start adding voided years to contracts like the Saints to "fudge" the books, then I'm okay. We did that with Ioandidis last year, basically he was a very expensive one year rental. I hope that doesn't become a trend because like I said earlier, we are great shape cap-wise beyond 2023 as of NOW if they don't screw it up.

What is killing us is signing players to huge contract then cutting/trading them. CMC and Robbie Anderson accounts for 99.3% of our dead cap on the books for next year currently.

I would let Shaq play out his final year. I would not extend or restructure him (unless he takes a pay cut).

This should free up about $23M. We are about -$13M in effective cap space, so net about $10M which isn't much to shop with.