45catfan

Can we bring Wormley up from the PS? Outside of Tuttle and Brown, our DL sucks.

Oh look, our TEs are at the bottom of the list again. Let me show you my surprised face.

Since moving to the left side. His opening game at RG wasn't too bad. It's crazy, but the left side is his natural spot. It may be he's a better fit at RG in the NFL.

Which is why Dalton should have started yesterday. 1-whatever is better than 0-holding your breath for the first win. Bryce is going to have WAY more teachable moments than he'd probably care for over the course of this season, but yesterday was a chance to at least get of the snide with Dalton.

If he keeps it up we can trade Burns and not see much of a drop off in production. Not to mention a much more palatable contract.

That is a sad commentary, but also very true. When Chuba is your best RB, there is something wrong.

Has anyone noticed he does a hop when handed the ball? I noticed that few times yesterday. Probably a stutter step waiting for daylight to appear, but you have to hit the hole. if there's any daylight, it's gonna be sooner rather than later.

And occasionally jump one for a pick 6 which has been conveniently ignored about yesterday. There's a reason defensive players don't play WR. That Vikings player dropped a gimme pick 6 yesterday, which would have only had added fuel to today's discussions.

Are you seriously suggesting we run the read option with Bryce? You did see the fumble yesterday with the arm tap, correct? When he scrambles on a protection breakdown, he doesn't look half bad, but to suggest he should run right into the teeth of the defense is mind blowing. I agree, there could be some pre-snap motion. It's not been absent, but nearly so.

Yes, because they Jets TRULY WERE a player away. That's exactly why they went out and got Rogers and basically told Wilson to kick rocks.

Yup, that's UGLY. Air yards under 3 and intended air yards a hair over 5. Sure Young's got a high completion rate, but is there any question as to why? Again, Franks playbook has route over 5 yards. I can't 100% confirm that, but it's just a hunch.

Okay, how about criminally ill-informed? Is that better? You shouldn't be doing sports analysis, especially for the local team if you cant take a basic lay of landscape. I can get Suzie housewife that may go to one Panthers game a year maybe being that gullible, but any self-respecting fan (real fan) knows that was and is a complete BS statement about a player away.

"for a team that was only one player away." Anyone who believed that is freaking moron.

I stopped listening at 3:46. If they honestly thought this team was the 49ers of last year or the Steelers when they drafted Big Ben, then they need to stop doing commentary.

Analytics...remember, Tepper bought into this hook, line and sinker. Stocks and bonds don't have intangibles like humans. You can't manage athletes like stock portfolio.

Tepper is scared to make the same mistake twice, so he keeps grasping at straws because he has no freaking clue what he is doing. Just because someone makes a lot of money in one field does not make them a genius in all aspects. Dude needs to stick to hedge funds and let the football people do their jobs.

If we didn't give anything up for the #1 pick, sure, but if Young does not pan out then it was a bust of a trade package. I wasn't aware we gave up a first round veteran and and first round pick for Darnold.

^^^Our franchise since Tepper took over. Those nuggets represent our hopes and dreams for this organization under his ownership.

Tepper and it's not even close. We struggled to some extent, but there has been nothing but straight misery since he took over. Without Tepper, Matt Rhule would have NEVER been our coach. Without Rhule the GM (Fitts or other) would not have been hamstrung for 3 years. That said, you have a college guy trying to build a NFL roster. After that disaster, you have a GM on the hot seat making rash decisions trying to save his own neck. Then you have a #1 overall draft pick at QB, ready or not--NOT--the coaching staff is forced to play because to don't bench the top draft pick. Now the new coach is quickly becoming the scapegoat because the rookie in all his hype is playing, well, like a rookie. Fug, we're the Jets south.

Yup, but several subsequent events and bad decisions derailed that really quick.

The best thing we could have done, and what I was a HUGE proponent of was getting the bridge QB a la Bridgewater and do it the right way this time. We got Dalton, so the opportunity was there. With a brand new staff and a fan base hungry for some success, this was the way to go. Get some weapons on offense and draft the rookie in 2024. Chance are we would have been a middling team and could have still got a QB without trading to #1 or trading up at all because the QB draft is so deep. Not having the #1 overall would have taken away the urgency to play the rookie right away. It's not uncommon for mid-first round QBs not to start their first season or sit at least a portion of the season. If you know how much I enjoy the draft and see how absent I was in the draft forum after the trade with the Bears...it would make complete sense.

Fitts couldn't hold his water one more draft and it will likely be his downfall. I get the heat he was feeling, especially from Tepper, but man this draft will probably be the nail in his coffin as the Panthers GM

There is no salvaging this season. If the staff is committed to Young even if it means 0-17, get rid of Burns IF the price is right. This rebuild needs more ammunition and cache is nearly empty. If we can get two first, then go for it. At minimum I'd take a first and either a day 2 pick or a healthy "plug and play" offensive weapon with proven production.

You have to hit Ian in the facemask and hope it gets wedged between the bars for a completion. Bryce almost did it.

What you won't know and impossible to know is the outcome of the play he chose to change. The assumption is option 1 is a failed play because he opted for the second. Chances are for every play that he changes fails, the first may have had success--and vice versa. The only way to know is take away that option. All I know is our offense is stagnant as swap water with him and had we not seen what it looked like with Dalton at the helm--actually resembling a NFL offense--then I could get behind the antiquated system and geriatric play caller that most of the Huddle is claiming. Unfortunately for Young, that twisted ankle gave us a glimpse of what this offense could look with a veteran behind center.