45catfan

Agreed on the disagreement. I don't know how one gets handed a heaping serving of chopped liver and is expected to make filet mignon out of it. Frank had his faults, but he also wasn't a miracle worker either.

Would Tepper allow us to draft a QB at #33 if one falls? You know dude has ZERO accountability and thus if Bryce still continues to struggle making it even more obvious the NFL is too big for him, Tepper will likely pass on a quality QB if there at #33 just to save face, IMO.

Name this coach. It's a two way road. People can't say give the rookie time because all rookies struggle, but then say the coach of said rookie is supposed to have a decent record. That makes no sense.

100% agree and I've been saying this as well. Dalton is collecting easy money holding a clipboard and while we would still not be a good team with Dalton, a win here and there does wonders for moral--the team and fans.

Question, would our record have been 1-10 if Dalton started the last 5 games? Again, the man was in a no win situation. Tepper wouldn't let him bench Bryce an Bryce isn't NFL ready.

Yup. Reich couldn't win with the rookie and couldn't bench him either. Frank was in a no win situation...as I stated numerous time.

I hate to say told you guys so, but I TOLD you guys so. No wonder Frank wanted out.

Why? I can sum it up in one word: scapegoat.

I know who I wanted and it was a QB in this coming 2024 draft. Frank had the right instincts to go after Carr. Yeah, I know, another bridge QB, but you don't have a brand new staff hitch their wagons to a QB that's not generational. I get Bryce is super smart, but nothing in his play even a 'Bama says he was a generational QB. For the record, even though Stroud is doing well, there was not generational QB this draft in the mold of Manning, Luck, or even as recently as Trevor. The plan was to get a new staff get their bearings, familiarize and mold this first season, THEN get the rookie QB once the staff has a year under their belts as a unit. Again, impatient Tepper blew the whole thing up.

That's what you get when you hire a head coach and immediately neuter him by not letting him take his choice of QB(s). Frank wanted Carr, then Stroud and had to settle for Young. You're right, it was never going to work.

Tepper getting dragged all day has been the best part of my day!

Yup, Frank is a good dude and at least should have had the dignity to finish out the season. Nope, mid-season firing, another might I add. You can only treat people so bad before that crap catches up to you. Apparently it's not just coaches that Tepper treats like poo. No coach had been here for over 10 years when Tepper took over. That was either a scout or someone on the business side that lady was posting about.

Greg isn't Tepper's booze brother, so the correlation isn't there.

Two bum shoulders and two bum knees. Dude has been sliced and diced on more than a Thanksgiving Turkey. I love the kid, but his injury history is going to scare off a lot of teams.

Better REALLY hope Caleb or Drake decides to return.

No slight to Frank, but I don't think he was meant to mentor a rookie QB from the ground up. He's been in the QB reclamation business too long. We would be a .500 team with a solid veteran QB starting from the outset instead of Bryce.

So we gave up all that draft capital for a feasible QB? We could have stuck with Darnold or Mayfield for a feasible QB1 and kept all our draft picks.

He shouldn't be.

A sucker who wants big time money.

Frank liked his big-arm, tall, veteran QBs. This was never going to work with Bryce.

Will he be bringing players with him?

Sacrifice. Frank looked beat down and even with another win or two would not have saved his job. He probably added years back on to his life by getting out of here. If Tepper thinks this firing quieted the saber rattling, he's delusional.

That's the problem, 2024 is a prime year to draft a QB. 2025? Not so much. The top two QBs are underclassmen who have zero incentive to return and the next several guys are seniors+ and most have to come out. What does that leave for 2025? Not much.

They are cautious not to be too quick to judgement on QBs as they take the longest to develop. Generally I would agree, but like you said, I don't see the potential. If I saw NFL qualities, I could be patient, but I don't. It's not ONLY about the record. Trevor Lawrence, Peyton Manning, Aikman etc... all had rough rookie campaigns, BUT you saw the traits that would eventually make them great. I see nothing in Bryce that leads me to believe he can be a QB1 at this level.

Facts. Tepper, by devoting (wasting) another year on Bryce, this team is going to miss out on this immense QB draft. YES, it's deep enough to get a QB1 At #33.