45catfan

Yes, but if they draft a QB this year or another team has a really down year....bullet dodged.

Eh, teams have off years, a few franchises are just poo all the time. If I had a NIL deal and still was eligible with the very real prospect of being taken by the Jets or Browns, you had better believe my butt would be going back to campus. NIL deals have reduced the lure of foregoing school for a for a quicker payday. If a QB is good enough for a first or second round grade, he's already making a million or more of NIL money.

Two problems with taking a QB in round one this draft, well three considering Bryce isn't going anywhere, are draft spot and quality of depth. So I think we are probably going to be closer to the teens than we are top 5. That said, the crap teams needing a QB this year will undoubtedly scare some guys back to school. This is a HEAVY underclassmen group. Very few of the top guys have run out of eligible years. If the board stacks like Jets. Browns...bet the bulk of the underclassmen go back to school. Then that's going to leave the class with the likes of Beck, Klubnick and Allar (whose a medical red flag now).

If I remember correctly, there was a consensus among the top brass on Bryce. At least that's what was reported.

HC, possibly, but Dan was in the draft room when Young was picked. Unless he was a quiet in his opposition, he signed off on Bryce as well.

Hey, I might be old dammit, but don't call me random!

Me too, but It's his criteria, so I'm playing by his rules. I'm just really curious how this pans out.

Okay then, minimums: 1st Round: Completion Percentage 62%, TD:INT 1.5:1 2nd Round: Completion Percentage 60%, TD:INT 1.25:1 3rd Round: Completion Percentage 56% TD:INT minimum 1:1 4th-7th Round: Completion Percentage 54%, TD:INT minimum .75:1 Edits in bold

That's what is so confusing to me. Why do the categories have to be mutually exclusive based on draft round? It would seem to me a 7th rounder that starts 30 games with a 62% career completion percentage is a success, but I would say the same for a 3rd rounder too. Alright, career numbers: 1st round: Completion%: 64 or greater, 3:1 TD/INT or greater 2nd round: Completion%: 62 or greater, 2.5:1 TD/INT or greater 3rd round: Completion%: 60 or greater 2:1 TD/INT or greater 4th-7th round Completion %: 58 or greater; 1.5 TD/INT or greater

Man, you must have worked for tech support before, lol! I could only imagine you said that out loud in a foreign dialect as you were typing it.

Firstly, I would think "meets criteria" would be easier to quantify than "any above" and scale it from low to high. Day3 draft picks (UDFAs) have lower thresholds and first rounders have the highest thresholds. At that point it would be parsing out what would be a success at each draft level and then 'ticking boxes' of data.

If the Jets and Browns are at the top of the board, expect A LOT of QBs to return to school. Yes, they have that kind of option nowadays with NIL. I think the only seniors (that potentially could be 1st rounders) are Allar, Beck and Klubnick. All the rest of the top prospects are underclassmen.

I've been on Panthers MBs since '96. Yes, I was on the first incarnation of the Huddle. This is the last one that I know of that exists which has any real traffic to speak of.

Yes, it can absolutely be broken down by round. The lower the round drafted and higher the criteria met, the more success that draft pick is.

@TheBigKat offered not to long ago and got shot down by Zod. I think he'd rather let this place die a slow death than sale it. As much as the Huddle is a shell of it's former glory, it is still his 'baby' and he probably can't stand the thought of someone else having it.

Team success as starting QB criteria: winning record seasons/playoff appearances/playoff wins Career completion percentage: >57, 58-60, 61-63, 64-66, <67 TD/Int ratio: >1:1, 1:1, 2:1, 3:1+

Completion percentage and TD:Int ratio should be applied across the board regardless of draft position. There shouldn't be grading on a curve of actual stats depending on round drafted. 50% completion is a$$ no matter what round a QB was taken. You could argue the inverse, that would make a bigger bust for say a first round QB.

All criteria has to be based off of personal accomplishments?

Biggest difference being those guys you mentioned left trash teams/situations that allowed them to flourish under better circumstances. Tepper doesn't realize this is one of the trash organizations that holds QBs back. If Young materializes into anything other than what he is now, it will be on a different team. I agree, if Tepper has final say on the 5th-year option, Young gets it because Dave is not willing to admit defeat on the comedy of errors that led to us drafting Bryce. Dave's ego is more important than the future of this franchise. We all know that by this point in his ownership tenure.

I know it's rare, especially for QBs, but I think Canales and Morgan know he's not the QB1 to take this team to the next level. Don't be shocked if they decline the 5th-year option. Moreover, if one or both are gone, the odds increase tremendously as a new coach and/or GM have zero emotional ties to Bryce.

I's still down for kicking the tires on Trey Lance.

So we cut him if we don't give him the option? I'm pretty sure there are players who didn't get the 5th-year option that played year four of their rookie contracts with their draft team.

Bryce is getting a year four, whether he gets the 5th -year option or not. Don't bank on drafting a first round QB.

It could be a strong class, but most of the underclassmen are likely go back to school because with NIL the need for a quick payday by going pro is greatly reduced. Several teams picking ahead of us need QBs too.

He still has a year on his contract and as does Bryce. I have a feeling these two will still be your QB1 and QB2 going into 2026. This is why I can't get excited about this team...among many other things.