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That would basically make him a top 10 quarterback based on last year's stats if you break down each QB metric, complied and ranked them. I get the premise of the question--why should we get rid of Bryce after the season if the team still sucks, but it's not Bryce's fault? Fair enough. If Bryce balls out and for whatever reason we still can't get over the hump, he shouldn't catch all the grief for it. However, I will caveat that while stats can add layers of paint to a canvass, they do not always paint the whole picture. So while those hypothetical stats are pretty darn good, if we are inept in the red zone settling for FGs or he's coughing up the ball on sacks or completing layup passes that doesn't get us first downs, then statistically he can have a really good season, but it could leave us on the short end of the scoreboard some games.

The main detractors think we should have went defense in round 1 and then came back to WR in either rounds 2 or 3. In other words, DEF>>>WR in terms of need and thus dinged us on the grade.

Not defending the guy and honestly don't even know who he is, but a lot of people had Sanders going to the Saints until they literally came out the week before the draft and said they absolutely were not taking a QB at #9. Even a few holdouts thought it was a bluff. So everyone that had us taking Williams or Walker are clowns? Only a very few mocks leading up to the draft had us taking TMac. He was a popular choice to us early on (myself included) and, in hind sight, why the "leaks" of us loving Walker to the media was so common. Verge did get one thing right about the draft, Walker was a smokescreen. Sure he may have been the consolation prize if TMac had got taking by the Jags or Jets, but we now know who really was the #1 target.

NFL dot com gave us the 25th best draft class. Full list: https://www.nfl.com/news/2025-nfl-draft-ranking-all-32-rookie-classes-plus-overall-grades-favorite-picks-and-day-3-sleepers

Ha-ha, I bet that went through everyone's mind. Admittedly I don't read all the comments in a thread before I make a post. Great minds think alike!

The last time I loved the Panthers was 2017; they broke my heart in 2018 and have just been my side piece every since then. Ya know, show some interest when I have an urge and ambivalent the rest of the time.

Never put Horn and break in the same sentence. Thank you.

Possibly, but luck was ultimately on Bryce's side because offensive injures started to rack up and Dalton looked exposed after that Raiders game. Remember, Thielen went down for several weeks during that Dalton stretch and the O-line had some bumps and bruises. Just about the time Bryce was inserted back into the lineup everyone started to get healthy.

To me Bryce's ceiling is his backup, Andy Dalton, in his prime. Sure, he may get us some winning seasons and may even get us to the playoffs on occasion, but with an early exit. To me he doesn't have what it takes to be elite and it takes an elite QB to consistently get deep into the playoffs. He's not Jackson, he's not Mahomes and he's not even Allen. In an organization like Philly, he possibly could have what it takes to make a deep run, but let's face it...Philly is well oiled machine and and we are a GMC Grimlin.

Don't be so sure, this team has a long history of falling in love with players and dragging their feet when it's obvious to everyone else it's time to move on--whether it be age, injuries or high draft picks.

I was thinking Charles Johnson.

Maybe we should have just drafted a corner? Crazy, I know. One of the few positions we knew had to be addressed in the draft and nadda.

The front office has fixed the offense for Bryce. We have ZERO holes. A bit inexperience at TE and WR (to a lesser extent) but the excuses for Bryce not to live up to his draft hype are officially over. This draft should have been more front end heavy and more draft capital spent overall to fix our awful defense. The fact that we had to trade up some to chase picks on defense because we took another weapon for Bryce in round1 says everything.

Tepper hasn't changed, he's keeping his ego and bad decisions out of full public view. Dave's just making the same bad decisions largely behind closed doors. He's at least self aware enough to know he's not a fan favorite and that's why he's largely taken a back seat to media exposure. I serious doubt it was some inflection moment, epiphany, course correction or humbleness that Dave had come to realize.