Green-Ghost

? How will this Benefit the Panthers?

I apologize for the bad font. I tried to edit it out but, it looks like you cannot change your own message once it has been posted. as for the loony posts,, it is easy to be looney than the subject is looney. on a serious note, what happens when two or more NFL teams decide to loose to get a better 1st round draft choice?

Lol this is precisely my point.

I posted this already in a tread. I just wanted to share with everyone. I apologize in advance if it is not good. This is what a typical game may sound like if both sides attempt to Tank…. I thought we could use a good laugh to a disappointing season. Announcer one - “we have kick off.” The ball goes into the end zone and will come out at the 20 yard line. Announcer number two - “it looks like the Saints are bringing in a new quarterback”. #2 - #1 “I don’t recognize the quarterback do you, Jim?” #1-“I haven’t seen this person before Tom.” #2-“it looks like their public relations man in a saints uniform.” #1-“ first down and 10 yards to go from the 20. #2-“ the quarterback is Marion orange, he is the public relations guy for the Saints”. #1-“ Marion, Takes the snap and he’s running…. In the wrong direction.” #2-“ well… he has plenty of room to run and I don’t think he has to worry about any Tackle”. #1-“ Marion has made it to his own endzone. All the Panthers need to do is tackle him and they will have a two point safety.” #2-“ that is correct Tom, however… it looks like the Panthers are trying to drag Miriam out of the end zone into the field of play.” #1-“ the officials blow this play dead. The Carolina Panthers have just scored a safety.” #2-“The panthers will also get the ball on the free kick.” #1-we will return after a word from our sponsors “. #1-“And we are back. We have just witnessed one of the weirdest drives in NFL history. Saints quarterback, Marion orange just ran the ball back and scored a safety for the other team.” #2-“ back to receive the kick is um … who is that Tom?” #1-“ I don’t know Jim. I’ve never seen this guy before in my life. I also noticed that his uniform is a little bit too big for his body.“. #1-“ the Saints kick off and uh the unknown panther lets the ball drop, and nobody seems to want to jump on the ball. The ball is blown dead.” #1-“ the Panthers will have the ball on their own 37 yard line. Looks like they also have a new quarterback.” #1-“ this is one of the weirdest football games I have announced Tom do you have any idea who that guy is?” #2-“ no but his uniform is way too tight. I don’t see how he can move.” #1-“ the unknown, Panthers quarterback, takes the snap and wow! He is immediately dropped by cam Jordan for a huge loss. “ #2-“ if I didn’t know any better Tom, I would say that the quarterback was trying to run the other way, but cam Jordan caught up with him too fast.” #1-“ah it looks like the Panthers are celebrating in that huge 17 yard loss.” #2-“ my sources have confirmed that the new quarterback for the Panthers is the equipment manager, TJ Duncan”. (both announcers, forget to mute the .microphone, and they are heard chitchat thing in the background). #2-“ oh I get it! I get it. I bet both of them are trying to tank for a high draft pick “. #1-“ well,, if that is the case, the Panthers have a huge two point lead to overcome!” (both announcers discovered the microphone has never been muted. They are over come by embarrassment, announcer 2 asks announcer 1. if he still has that flask of Jack Daniels in his pocket.). #1-“ it is first down and 27 to go from the Panthers 10 yard line” #2-“ Saints call their first time out, .,,, It looks like the coaches in the sideline or walking off the field.” #1-“For whatever reason, the Saints have decided to forfeit this game.” #2-“ the panther sideline is running after the Saints sidelines they are dragging each other back to the field.” #1-“uh oh!! it looks like fighting has broken out. We will return after this message. Any word from our sponsor?” #2-“ I think we better clarify that we will try to return after these messages any word from our sponsor.”

It does look to me like, Bryce can now develop without a lot of immediate pressure to perform. There is time to assess his true value.

If the Saints are stupid enough to trade Taysom Hill and Cam Jordon, would you take them? there are panicked emotional Saints fans that want to trade them before the June 1st deadline.

This brings up another good point, Should players “walk out and refuse to play”. If the team has a loosing record? This would definitely send a message to management that the fans demand changes.

I agree. I tried to address that in my last statement. - (That is not to say, you should attend every game.). There are times a message is sent to management, “changes must be made”. I guess each fan must assess that for themselves.

I have not said much as of late. Like everyone else, I am to say the least, disappointed in the season, I won’t say the most. My conscience won’t let me say the most. So the question is, what is left to play for? Good question, for me, it is to be a pain in the side for other teams and get Bryce Young plenty of experience. If I am not mistaken, we have the opportunity to knock the Saints, out of any playoff possibility, this weekend. We also have the opportunity to send the Falcons a message. “Panthers will rule next Year.” is this a playoff? No but it is good medicine. To me, a true fan sticks with his favorite team through good and bad times. (That is not to say, you should attend every game.). There are times a message is sent to management, “changes must be made”. keep the faith.

I am not qualified to make call. I just know whoever it is must not be fired, after only one year. We do not want that reputation. remember John Meacham had no wining seasons as a team owner. Firing the coach every year will not win a championship.

Someone texted “Tepper does not care“. If this is true, then this is a major problem. this tells me that he is treating the team like a hobby instead to a family business. I hope that I am wrong. This would be similar to how Jon Meacham treated the Saints before Tom Benson, took over. The Wiseman says I know what I know. I know what I know is right however, let me listen to your concern, but the final decision is mine. The fool says I know what I know. I know what I know is right end of discussion I do not have time to listen to you. Hopefully Tepper is a wise man and listens to other NFL knowledgeable people.

Being a Saints fan back in 1986. (1987 was first ever playoff appearance,) I think this season is experiencing growing pains. Keep the Faith!

I have attempted to watch games on NFL+. During each game I received a message that read, “ in order to continue watching the rest of this broadcast, you must enroll in the NFL plus for a per month charge.” To me this is dirty it makes me mad. It makes me not want to enroll in NFL plus because of dirty tactics. I think NFL plus executives must think that once you get engrossed in the game you’ll want to enroll just to finish watching the game. It’s like a drug deal give victims free drugs until they’re addicted and then start charging them. This is the best analogy that I can think of that NFL plus it’s using. What NFL+ should have done is either notify immediately, there is a charge for the service or notify you immediately that the first 30 minutes are free. Instead, they allow you to watch for 30 minutes and then cut off the game until payment is made. my question is, how many people think this is okay?

Based upon his last game against the Saints, NO! However, his QB maybe more to blame. His QB kept missing the receiver.

I wanted a winning team. I am sure I am not alone. I think people are mis judging college recruits. They look at that shiny new college QB and think, “We must tank and get that shiny QB.” However, I don’t think they understand the difference between the NCAA and the NFL. I was a little bit concerned about Bryce Young because he played for a powerful Alabama team. How much did Bryce contribute to making Alabama, a powerful team. Alabama was a powerhouse before BY and may still be a powerhouse after BY. the decision has been made and BY is the QB. I wish I saw more posts asking, how can we make this work. However, after just two games, I saw posts which read, “Let’s fire this person, lets loose the rest of the games so we can draft the next star College QB.” How can you win if you are constantly tearing your favorite team apart? My pet peeve is, there are tow many people who want to tank an get a perfect draft pick. 1st Tanking is cheating and dishonest. 2nd Any draft pick is not a sure bet. However, if I was betting, who is the best QB, from that draft class, I would have chosen Bryce Young. let’s keep the faith. PS. Does anyone think we should fire the Water person?

I saw this on a different forum. I have noticed that the QB has a huge impact on a team. both coaches have become dumpster fire, after losing their high caliber QB. So, where did Brady and Brees come from?

I am not saying the Panthers should adopt this system. That being said, it probably should be considered an option. Too many people let emotions control their judgement.

M 45. N 7. Rulzie is kickin tail. Unfortunately, it is his own.

Of course! I am not a fair weather fan!!!

I am not sure that duped is the correct word. I don’t think any team would put together a losing team with malice. BTW it is only two games into the season. Let’s see what happens with Andy Dalton at quarterback. I do think we need to be very cautious regarding the head coach. I am one of the older people who has been watching football for many years. I watch the Saints play from 1969 to present. I am using them as an example here: The Saints were losers until approximately 1987. One of the biggest reasons was because of the owner, whose name was John Meacham John wanted to win the Super Bowl every year. In other words, he wanted to win and win now, which is physically impossible. The point is, it’s going to take more than two or three years to develop a winning team. John kept firing the coach, approximately one or two years. Later, a coach name Hank Stram told Meacham that, if Meacham would give him four or five years, he could develop a winning team. BTW, those too young to remember, Hank Stram had the winning Kansas City Chiefs team in the Super Bowl three. Hank was a well-known, high caliber coach at the time. Hank knew of Mitchum’s tendency to fire a coach after two years. He told Meacham that he would only take on the job of head coach, if Meacham agreed to give him 4 to 5 years. Meacham fired him after two years. My overall point is that if you start firing coaches after only two years, no coach worth their weight in gold is going to want to coach your team. You will have difficulty finding good caliber coaches and possibly players.

Before I give my opinion on this, I would like to ask everybody one question. Does anyone think that taking it is an honorable way to go? regardless of the advantages or disadvantages, I’d like to know how many people think that thanking is honorable.

We play the Seahawks next week. A win will cure an awful lot of ills here. I still believe that starting a rookie QB, the 1st season, will have many challenges. All due respect, it looks to me that expectations are all wrong. It is only the second game of the season with a rookie quarterback. I think a good quarterback needs to have talent and experience. There is no way a quarterback will have experience in only his second game as an NFL starter. Think of it this way, a soldier can prepare by running obstacle courses, target, practice, etc. but when you put the soldier out in the battle, when people are shooting at him, it is a totally different situation. All of the training and preparation in the world does not include the real war. Bryce Young needs more than two games to gain experience. Keep the faith!!!!!!

Very true. However, sometimes alcohol can reveal the true character of a person.

I was listening to Saints radio and Deuce McAllister. It is the only way to listen to the Panthers in my area. Deuce claimed “the Panthers were getting cute”. He claimed that the change in the quarterback caused the false start which cost the Panthers 5 yards. An offense gets used to one quarterback, and then when they stick, a new quarterback in, the offensive line is not used to the new quarterback. I think the Panthers were going to pick up the first down. They may have put Andy Dalton in to give him credit for getting the 1st down, against his former team. (They had 4th and inches. (Practically a give me first down.) However, it backfired. In my opinion, this was the turning point in the game.

All due respect. I think the Panthers are being underestimated. these conference games always have a lot of emotion. Emotion sometimes has the effect to win ball games. I have watched the Panthers take down the Saints, many times. Monday night football. There will be plenty to watch and enjoy.