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really liked chase brown coming out of college. wish we could tackle him this drive........

need a bunch of pass rushers next year. we got the OGs and #1WR this year. next is all in on the pass rush. would love to swing a trade w/ eagles to go get Hasan Reddick to speed the process but he's on the wrong side of 30.

jackson is a glorified scrub.

yeah he's priority for continuity, but no brinks truck. top of backup $ maybe. if someone goes giving him starter money run away.

old man dalton making his case for CPOY? he's even better than "good" derek anderson in panther blue. would have him back another 2 years at this point. is he better than old man flacco?

hell i didnt start jordan addison today. that vikes team is legit. darnold isnt leaving minny. he will take a smaller deal to stay there. that team is LOADED and he is looking like an MVP cause they have a loaded OL, WR group, TE, and even RB now. plus the OC/HC is a freaking OC GOAT with what he got out of cousins and guys off the street. why leave for anywhere else unless he really need to chase more $. oh and defense do better. need some guys next FA and draft for damn sure

Canales showing how good he is. the O staff is needs to be locked in for the future. this isnt some staff that got a bunch of old toys and made it work. hes got a younger group playing. yes he has an older vet QB, but that shows a guy like dalton can look pro bowl level in this O (like baker in TB). i think we are showing that maybe there was actual talent all over the field and we just needed a real QB to take advantage................

reason to trade now: time for the other team to evaluate = compensation. any team that picks him up at the end of the season burns time to develop/evaluate him before deciding on year 5. so, leverage the control. its be 1 year before you had to make the call vs 1.75. that's why the Darnold trade was dumb of us (had to go with 5th year option before year 4, without him any sight of him in a uni) and Rosen was smart of the cards. sell the years of control and time to fix before the real $ decisions are required. really should have sold at the end of last season but here we are and the value went down again so far this year..............

Dalton is a better version of Derek Anderson when he backed up Cam. The clock is ticking before he isnt too good. Father time is undefeated. Kick the tires on Winston (FA) or Howell (trade). Need a better development guy than plummer. or longer bridge. If I was Darnold I might tell the panthers to kindly look elsewhere after the way 2022 and 2021 went here. now he might if its the only bag someone throws at him, but id say he gets more than our offer.

we had talent the last 3 years man. Rhule fuged us to start as was shown with wilks taking Rhule's proclaimed talentless roster and getting right up to the playoffs window but got GOATed by the bucs with brady and evans abusing the poo out of henderson (who is was garbage). Add fitt trading CMC prior to Wilks getting his shot so it wasnt that bad as Rhule said....... Then tepper forcing Bryce all year in 2023 made evaluation impossible. The team (OC/HC) all quit with the rest cause they saw Bryce wasnt it for the most of 2023. We got another glimpse into that to start the year in two blowouts. the narrative was talentless Panthers before today. like the Seattle game last year, we were not talentless on O. A competent QB and HC changed the math. So morgan has a loooooong way to go as he was part of the Bryce debacle and the scouting under Fitt. and its not like we hit well under fitt and morgan as assistant GM in 2022 and 2023. his connection to the stench of Fitt from even the Seattle days makes me really cautious with him. he took a layup on johnson for jackson. wish we fired Fitt and Rhule after 2021 and let wilks take over with baker, pj, and sam. be better off place today.

all the negative Nancys after the last 2 drives. fug off. jackson said yall full o poo on blowing the lead in 8 minutes.

Eh, extremely low risk. and it was really cheap cause Jackson really was replicable. The Steelers screwed up letting a legit #1 go for a #2 CB. Also shows why Johnson worked with big ben so well and not the crap in picket and co. Like chark from last year, he looked better with dalton. i wouldn't go crazy big $ for Johnson or Chark. I wouldn't give morgan too much cred for a layup. If he can float Bryce for anything more than a 6th..... he will have more rope to play with. Still need to see if he understands what to find in a long term QB.

telling me that getting ahead makes the defense play and look better as it makes the opposition more predictable. naaaaaaaah no fuging way. lets see if red rocket and co can keep it up. easier to run when the D cant just sit in the box all game.

We legit did what OP wanted by getting a QB in 2023 (Rhule fired in 2022) after the doom they state was firing Rhule mid season and won games. So we tried to get that franchise guy at 1-1 and it still didn't work out and we could have got the right guy still (Stroud) but missed and turned a meh team into an all-time poo show (never led until 0:00 on the clock ALL YEAR). sucking to keep getting players doesn't work. That is how the Browns and Lions stayed poo, cause they kept missing and kept loosing and had terrible management that blamed players (stafford was fine). Its not how to build a franchise. Hell the ones that have been on top have done it while drafting late year after year. So no sucking to "build assets" is a foolish strategy in the NFL. Proper development and scouting trumps all. Hell MVP Lamar Jackson was bottom of 1st round. where was Hurts, or Purdy, D Carr, Dak....... 1-1 means poo once you are in the NFL. just select good players and sign them. 2nd need coaches to work with the mix and maximize the players they have. if you are good at those 2 things, finding a QB will follow if you can find talent at every position while getting the best out of what you have. Eagles won with a loaded team and a journyman QB............... We would rather see progress across the board to see we know how to build a team and direct a team. and we are seeing that today. so if this keeps up and we go 7-9 so be it. we do know we have a better group than expected and parts to build on. the narrative of the Rhule era and start of the Bryce era is the same for the losers that supported them: wasn't their fault but the supporting casts. nah that's BS. The issues with Rhule were different. Your boy Rhule made it impossible to judge talent (Mayfield/Darnold/ even Joe Brady as OC whos showing out in Buffalo) and then we blamed the players (Teddy was right!). if we can get a good staff that can show how to get positive plays out of these guys it shows what we have, need, and what we can turn players into. that is 100x more important than trotting a guy that brings everyone down out there and keep playing for draft picks. the development and proper player recognition matters so much more. now if you get in a spot like the 49ers or cheifs where you get a poo season due to injuries, shoot your shot. worked for the Chiefs and the 49ers missed. so again high picks are still not a winning strategy to get that top QB. Those two teams still would be playoff teams with superbowl aspirations as the staffs knew wtf they were doing (though lance is a biiiiiig miss for the 49ers) OP has one of the worst takes of the year on fuging record now.

Red rocket 3 TDS and a bunch of plays over 20 yards. It was never the rest of the cast. Always Bryce that held us back!

More plays over 20 yards in 3 drives than the 1st two games? Can't be because of the supporting cast now can it?

hahahahah 1 drive and red rocket is in the endzone. old mid dalton. bryce is done in the NFL. we have a legit offense from outside of the midget. should be clear to all now...........

a vertical passing game is possible???????????

williams is throwing picks but still looks like an MVP vs bryce. the arm and mobility are definitely NFL caliber. he also is a gunslinger and willing to forget the last pick and keep pressing. the cope here on williams being "bad" is comical. rather have williams, DJ moore and all the other fun stuff the bears got vs bryce and it isnt close

Dude had the talent, and it flashed here and in NY. Sucks the fans/team abandoned him instead of support. but the huddle geniuses here saw him as a clip board holder at best and needed Bryce.......... The difference in Minny and Car is staff and still has a full roster. We will see if he turns into a pumpkin later, but right now, he's a world better again

All these ex-players coming out and showing how bad Bryce has been came after our announcement. The announcement Monday opened the door to let them say it without getting the brand that is the NFL to lash out. They don't want a #1 to fail, quite the opposite. Its drama, but not in a good way. For the NFL Bryce getting benched is not a good look, just like his play. Lets think on the timeline here in 2024 The video evidence was there last year. Internally, they got a good chance to review it throughout the season and really well after it ended. Upon review, out goes Fitt cause the NFL tape and the evaluation didn't match up. Morgan must have done one hell of a not my guy sales pitch or at least explained learning from it very damn well and what the next QB may look like if Bryce didn't improve. 0% chance the coaches, Tepper, Morgan, exc went into 2024 without starting to plan the next steps if Bryce didn't correct his course and some big strides in 2024. It's bad business to just stick to a bad stock or employee without an out, even when you like the stock or employee. Performance trumps all. They had to start at least a framework of what to do if Bryce did not improve base on the gap between expectations and output in 2023. And they did things internally to help evaluate the offense as a whole before just a straight 1 and done season from Bryce. They improved the cast with proven commodities to see where gaps were. Externally others had time to look over the 2023 film in depth. Analysts, reporters worth a damn, other players, and want to be football nerds had some tough pills to swallow if they took a stance that Young was the right guy coming into the 2023 draft. A lot took steps back from the stance he was a super processor guy that can overcome physical shortcomings. They had another target to ease their miss from the 2022-2023 draft cycle: Tepper. Damn well they should for this mess and so much more before 2023. But Bryce's NFL flaws were shown, and the team made the exact effort the masses claimed was the real problem: supporting cast needed upgrades. And guess what, Morgan did that. A proven OG pair, another proven WR (so 2 legit WRs, even though Chark was a legit deep threat too), heavy O draft. Brought in Canales for a guy that has promise as an offensive mind to help out. Think this is part of a larger plan to get all the parts of the offense together while the QB is cheap to evaluate the QB and start over if required so the next years have good support for any QB. They did not use Fitts vision of the QB lifting meh into greatness. Then you have game 1 against the Saints to start 2024. Arguably one of Bryce's worst games out of his 1st 17 games kicked off the year. The upper management's fears were on display and that offseason backup plan was squarely on the table to find a new QB. I'd speculate they had a meeting the following days to start talking about what triggers moving on. Coming off the heels of a really bad 2023, and an offseason where he needed to take a mental break for a sec and catch some Netflix. Yeah that's not a bad idea for a guy that's been through the grind and needs a wee bit of time to unwind. The issue is we are not talking about a vet here or someone that just had a bad year after a few years in. We are talking about a guy who didn't process the game at the right speed all last year taking a break...... The bad performances last year coupled with the offseason broke folks. Dante and Thielen are workaholics. They are not the Randy Moss type that it comes natural to. Thielen isn't some physical freak and Dante is a gym rat to get there. Others mentioned body language of other players from 2023 and 2024 practice. I think the locker room had enough DURING game 1. A guy that didn't have it last year, didn't go 100% in through the last game till game 1 of 2024 really would rub those type of players the wrong way and start escalating from soft whispers in 2023 to visible and vocal signs in 2024. Enter game 2, which was the worse of his 18-game career. There was not time to watch the Chargers film and change Canales' mind from the Sunday post-game comments. I think it was more likely a sit down of the front-line leaders (coaches) with the executive team (Morgan and Co) with the CEO (Tepper) and they all agreed to start the process of evaluating the team and start filling the QB role with someone other than Young. Due to the way the NFL works, Bryce isn't out like a typical employee, but it would take one hell of a turnaround for him to stick here long term. 2nd they had the rest of the locker room to contend with. Continuing to let Young out there was pretty much hurting both sides getting later pay checks due to the bad results which was perceived as bad players (something they heard to round out 2023). Alos you have a staff that cannot police bad play as the #1 overall why should the rest give 110%/ make the business decision to stay healthy while collecting checks. Now if they see signs of growth in practice in all forms from Bryce, he can come back and win back a locker room. Right now the tone suggest relief that its not Bryce as QB (ouch). Then you have the big bandwagon of Chase Daniels, Kurt Warner and the like agree with this move from the team on Monday. They saw it possible in review of 2023 and the reports from Bryce, players going on during the offseason and camp. They saw the gaps that were there from 2023 tape, so seeing it again and worse made it easy for that bunch to really lay into why we did this Monday. Crazy Steve A is always going to take a hot take that stirs the drama pot because it gets eyes and talk which equals $$$$$. Others follow that stick too. That group have a correct take on Tepper' failures and issues, but Bryce's failures are also true and they need to admit that too. As for Bryce getting blindsided by this, I can buy a part of it, but one part cannot be left alone. No way the issues we continue to see are never told to him and nothing is going on to help. In no way could a regular employee think if the performance to expectation gap continued to be so large that nothing was going to happen. 18 games almost all well below expectation and needs. So there was a reconning on the horizon and here we are, Bryce should have expected something based on so many bad performances and 2 of the worst this year and the feedback. Now the part I believe. He didn't have a seat in the all-hands call Monday morning, his level doesn't get in that meeting. Also, you generally don't tell a new guy, hey we are looking at firing/benching you this early (AKA preseason here). So I can buy he was told closer to the press conference on Monday, and they didn't tell him earlier as the all hands call with the coaches on up sealed the deal Monday morning.

Ward is a better penix of this class. Not super overwhelming physically but been getting it done forever. Little different that he really didn't have the injury bug, just worked his way from up the rankings. Always had success everywhere he's been. Just older prospect. Competitor, played well in big games, lifts team mates up (making the talent that's always been at Miami pop now) Ewers is the guy to me. Has the it factor but little smaller and nicked up a little every year unfortunately. I don't think injuries he's had translate next level. The arm and moxy does. Now he is a gun slinger and can get streaky which drives folks mad. But he has no conscious and can instantly forget a bad throw and look like great after it. He has had top end talent all around at Texas and a great coordinator too. That's the 4 knocks: other talent, coordinator is great, inconsistency, injuries. He processes better than most, is pinpoint for stretches and has a cannon. Fearless leader of all that talent too that guys latch to. Wanted him to come out so we could maybe take him last April (hahahahahahaha), but he will likely be top 3 now.

Smart money right here. Take out meds another year where the crap at least results in keeping the #1 overall. And that tepper + Morgan keep the stain of the Bryce forever as the 1st #1 overall to lead a team to back to back #1 overall picks.