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Wanted before the combine. Wanted to trade back to get him. This class is weak and would totally consider a safety at 8. Cover safety who can also play in the box as a LB even.

He's gone. I doubt he last mid now which sucks. Wanted Herbert and got Blackshear who was blah at VT. Tuten is great and the speed was on tape.

Jaylin Lane come on down. As one of what the 4 VT fans on this board, I can say the tape matches the results. He is gonna be a steal. Love to grab him. Now tuten was my sleeper pick at rb. A few crazy folks had him in round 1 and as a VT fan I thought it was crazy. But he went bananas this week. And the production was there, but he never stayed healthy and VT RBs get used up before the NFL.

Wtf did the kicker do. Why bat the ball instead of catching it!!!!!!

I mean the TE went full Ian Thomas, and you don't go full Ian.

Who has a worse weapons Panthers or chargers. Cause this charger team has nothing outside ladd

Ladd got hands on it. Right through them. Ball definitely tumbled into the DB It was high though. Cause Herbert had pressure and over reacted to in his face

Dionte Johnson sighting lol

That throw with a guy on him damn!

Says the guy going if if if?

Just like the cfb playoffs leads a quick drive to end a half. Real kicker got it done to end this 1st half. He doesn't run often but showed how he really can when he wants. Stroud is the guy.

i know others already chimed in, but yeah im there too. at some point its going to happen. having 4 or all 5 guys up front making bank hurts the rest of the team. they are great, but need some funds spread on over to the defense so we dont get run over all year after year

zack wilson. all the talent in the world and a terrible jets org messed up another one. he's a long term reclamation project. maybe just maybe Sean Payton already got 1 year of that done. id still think he needs another 1 or 2 before he might actually be ready cause the jets set him back from his college days. yes that how bad the jest have proven to be with QBS (wilson sandwiched in between darnold and rodgers)

Rourke on down are fine to pick up at 200 or later, imo value vs what we got in plummer. i think beck drops like a rock and someone takes a stash on that guy. im still ok with ewers, but not in rnd 1 and hes gone before we pick again. and no dont move up or down to go get him. 50s well thats a different and i would understand the appeal.

watched Blackshear in college, cant believe he stuck. congrats to him, but he's a ST guy at best. Tuten is a low profile guy. unfortunately i dont think i would draft him as i fear the meds. VT RBs are run down in college the last 3 decades. hes a shorter lighter guy. idk if he can 100% stick at the NFL level, but he has been nothing short of impressive, when healthy, at VT and there shitty pass game. he carried that offense for stretches the last 2 years. ollie gordon is an interesting guy that gets very little draft press this year. already a good reciever out of the backfield and great record on the ground the last 2 years. think he slides as he didnt backup the 2023 numbers on a bad team and hes a guy that needs a strong OL to realy highlight what he can do to a secondary. hes a load that looks for contact, but needs that runway to get going. start stop and hard cuts are not his thing. good/great in pass pro, and competent hands. backend of 5, sure take the flier, if you get him a runway with the line we have, he could produce on all phases. and my best for last is nick singleton. he was a monster as a true freshman at PSU. good not great overall production the last 2 years, but that RB room is stacked and both guys split carries. really developed as a blocker and pass catcher this year. take gordon and add the start stop and agility, but with lot less carries overall. personally he's up in the top 5 for me this class. if he drops to the 5th, sprint the card up. i think if we didnt heavily invest in the position, rnd 4 would be fine if he fell there too. i could see him taken early based on a big time combine, freshman year production, and great rate production every year. hes a little more boom, bust and still figuring stuff out, but PSU has such a crazy amount of talent in the RB room, he hasnt had the game reps of others to fully figure it out.

He would unlock brown as the UT and let teams have to decide to double in the middle of we go 4-3. Brown give us options to take a guy like walker. Then again I prefer grant to all. Think that size, power, quick twitch is top notch. He's not a flashy tactician and that's the real rub.

So Oregon folds in the playoffs again, no way. Guess they should have worn the maze and green that's almost blue to scare off the buckeyes cause this is a bloodbath.

Detroit allowed an average of 32.5 the last 4 weeks yet scored 37.5 a week over that span. They are one of the best offenses in the league even without montgomery. They are the #1 in points per game. They are riding that offensive juggernaut hard there. We average 2tds a game less than that Detroit team. Overall they had a better defense and better 1st and 2nd stringers to start. We are pulling PS guys weekly to start and the backups are PS guys in sub packages. Hell the 32.5 allowed is worse than our yearly average yet they won 3 out of 4 games... Also got the dysfunctional bears in there keeping that average down. They faced that bears team twice the last 5 weeks which helps pad the defensive stats for sure. They also got the jags and titans a few weeks earlier to help out with the banged up defense float. let's be real, bears, jags, titans and Richardson lead colts are battling us in offensive output, so no really challenges there. Detroit will really get the test in the playoffs, as the offense has bailed them out a bunch, well until the bills hung 48 on them 3 games ago. They are the team everyone wants to see win it all, but I think they legitimately have real trouble once the playoffs start with all the season ending injuries they racked up and having to ask Goff and co to go ham 4 straight games.

6th, sure absolutely. That's easy and can jettison ol plummer at a minimum.

If anything, it boosted his stock more. With him they were great 1st half, 31 points, 3 TDS after the fumble to start the game. then 10 points in the 2nd with williams. Oh and the guy that helped him all year at wr sat so.... Yeah Ward just makes plays. Kinda that guy that lifts everyone but that's taboo here ATM with the last guy said was going to be that style QB. I get it he didn't play the full game and got his stats and sat. Good. If he got hurt, it's millions it cost him. That record may stand a while regardless of how he does in the pros. He made it through with the record and not getting hurt, that's a W.

I'd be down for ward regardless. Yeah I agree there is better top end talent next year, but think the floor for ward is a starter. Idk if he's a top 5 guy for a decade, but he's gonna be a solid starter. Nothing in his college career says he can't be a mid level guy. From incarnate word, to Washington State to Miami, he just produced big time. Some huddlers were tapped in when he was still incarnate word, waiting for him to declare. Props to them, he looks the part every stop.

IMO it's icky. Is he a jag OT, or are we gonna see a top 15 or better guy that justifies an extension. If he's just a top 15 RT, that's fine and Moton can't stay there forever, but need to figure what to do at LT long term and let Moton play out 2026. Draft a developmental LT soon and let Icky man the spot for an additional year. Opinions are mixed on what he is still and that's not good for a top of the draft OT well into the rookie contract and approaching the need for an extension or move on from him. Need to see something to know what that next contract looks like and if it's here or somewhere else.

yeah it was wild, folks coping that stroud wont be top level cause he cried when a guy got a knee injury. like WTF folks. thats one of those alex smith type, oh poo this is really bad moments that the guys who have seen leg injuries even knew was anything but normal. sucks cause dell is a great story, mid rounder who always kills it. also that little guy that just makes plays all year long.

so much depends on what you want to run as the base/ highest percentage front. if you want a 3 man front, then Grant has always been the guy IMO, and Walker from Kentucky is right there too. pick one, cause expectations for both are crazy come combine time. love to get both but unless walker flops in the interviews and underwear Olympics (where he is expected to really make the 2nd or 1st round grade come true). Why? Cause with Brown, its 3 unusually large lineman that move like UT/ large Ends but can disrupt even when double teamed. it also lets the guys behind them really get freed up. i think grant is probowl level 5-tech (which is rare) as he is so damn disruptive even when doubled and helped make graham. there are a bunch of 5-techs this year to go get that can really help the run game and yet be respected as rushers or they will collapse a pocket. 5 tech thats interesting is Copehart from Clemson. not a stat monster, but great anchor and quick twitch guy. Rhylie Mills was another and he might be able to be a 5-tech or 3-tech, but want to see how that knee does. he was a team captain and productive as hell this year. Jordan Burch is another 5-tech to watch out for as well. good anchor and can still push the pocket out there. not gonna be a wiz beating the tackle often, but thats not the 5-tech's job. Sai'vion Jones is another that if he comes out, can develop into a great DE, but he may be able to play in either front, but prefer he develops a little more. grant to me is more the 5 tech if you stay 3 man front than a nose in either system, but could see him at NT and brown at UT to make a nasty up the middle pair, but he isnt the pass rusher others are who we could pair with Brown in a 4 man front. walker might be able to stick in that nose and anchor well enough in either front. both are NOT guys i go get if i want to run a 4 man front with brown (who should be NT, even if he would be a grand UT). then its Nolen and Williams, sleeper is the kid Zane Durant, if he declares to pair with D Brown. get that quick disrupter up the middle to pair with brown, cause they will all have to still double brown inside where he is still a monster, but let the other terrorize the OG. as for 4-3 edges, im not enamored with this class. lots of questions in lack of production from the freak athletes and over production for the ones that dont pop on so many plays like the top of the draft guys. carter with more production is a slam dunk, same with Williams from UGA.

yeah the start of the rhule years with herbert vs teddy, thats easy. herbert on that 2020 team would have been just fine. what did we do after the teddy year, oh go out and spend picks on a broken Darnold, and then a year later, broken mayfield. yes we would have EASILY been better off with an actual QB with upside in 2020 vs all that crap we pulled. lets be real, herbert had poo coaches till this year out there with the chargers, so that coaching part, yeah he already has been screwed before. you are being obtuse on the importance of d brown vs j herbert and everything that followed