Sgt Schultz

Glad I was sitting down.....you are not saying we would be doing the same things and expecting different results? This franchise has never done that before (he says, looking at the skies for the inevitable bolt of lightning).

What I noticed was not his feet, but his concentration. He continued to look downfield as he was evading the pressure. So, he used his mobility to buy time for the receivers to get open. At least in the two situations shown he looked golden. I'm assuming those are just a random sampling of the norm, because staying with the pass and buying time are learned.......unless they are not.

Arizona State did a major renovation on Sun Devil Stadium a few years back. If you look at various pictures, they pretty much razed and rebuilt the stadium in two or three sections until what resulted was basically a new stadium that looked similar to the old one, in the same location. The problem with just renovating is the original structure may not support it (I read somewhere that Lambeau has gone about as far as the underlying structure will support), and even if it does, expanding things like restrooms and concession areas is not easy in an existing structure. Renovating takes time and will either require the team to play at least one season outside of its home stadium and maybe outside of its home market, depending on where the nearest stadium is that can provide enough seating and good enough facilities. The Bears had to play 2002 in the University of Illinois stadium 140 miles away while Soldier Field was being rebuilt. I doubt that it is much cheaper (assuming they are not building something like the Jones Palace to the Excess). Whenever something is renovated, problems are always found that delay things and add cost. St. Louis essentially did a hybrid approach when they tore down Busch Stadium and built the new baseball park. They built the new one on a piece of land adjoining the old one (was parking garages, I think). They were able to build about 2/3rds of it without tearing down the old stadium. After the 2005 baseball season ended, they took down the old stadium and finished the new one. That reduced the risk that the new stadium would not be ready for opening day 2006 (although it was still not complete).

Geez, Juan, he looks like a bridge troll in that picture.

I think we should offer a fifth round pick... To Seattle if they trade for Mayfield. It would be worth it to end this chatter and perhaps to save us from ourselves.

I was afraid I was missing the obvious one due to reading the last page of the book first! That's what I get for trying to be on this forum while I am on a Zoom meeting. I have to get my priorities straight and say screw the Zoom meetings at work!

And the amazing thing is many here have all those talents. I could get run over by a beer truck and find somebody here who can treat my injuries, sue the beer truck operator, and pass a law limiting beer trucks to slower speeds with one visit!

Add Phillip Rivers total to your list.

This sounds like the backstory for somebody winding up in the footer of a new stadium.

Damn is a good word for it. 55 is still younger than I am, which always causes me to take a breath.

Congress will do the second best thing it can do: nothing. It won't be because they determine they can't really do anything, it will be because they are busying trying to find something else to make themselves look more effective than a one-legged man in a butt-kicking contest.....trying in vain, incidentally. On the incidentally note, the worst thing the could do is something, because history tells us they would create three new problems for every one they tackle, and then eff up the one they tackle. And, of course, if they wanted to do anything they would have to fend off the lobbying from the NSA. In this case, it is the lobbying group of which Snyder is a member: Narcissist's Society of America. And we all know one of the myriad of things Congress can't do effectively is fend off lobbying. So, there is all that.

I signed one recently because the agency is researching a new technology (that does not work), they are coming to the conclusion that its performance is not up to what is required, but somebody in the hundreds associated with this mess has been running back to the vendor, who prefers to lobby Congress rather than improve their technology (and I am not sure they can improve their technology). The NDA was designed to stop that blabbing. Will it? Probably not. I'm sure employees and contractors that work in the Supreme Court are all under NDA's, too. The example you gave is the texbook example. Closely guarded company "secrets" or research into new products and services are generally the target. We hear more about NDAs associated with settlements of court cases (or avoidance of them), but those between employers and employees/contractors are far more common, I would think. And in those cases, the company could actually point to harm by the disclosure, rather than "I could go to prison for something I probably should have gone to prison for, anyway."

On the scale of narcissim, JR was single-A or rookie ball compared to Danny boy. From day one of his ownership, Snyder appeared to think he was the smartest guy in the room of owners, with the possible exception of Jerry Jones who he sucked up to. What he fails to realize is that the being the smartest guy in the room has very little relationship to who gets what they want or comes out on top in a group like the NFL owners. Foreskin fans will probably throw a three-day parade if he is forced out.

Wow. My heart goes out to his family. He was far too young for this.

So, you are optimistic that he is right? Or, as Curley said, "I'm a little negative about the positive, but I am positive about the negative."

I'm prepared for another rendition of the Keystone Kops. I grew up watching the Cardinals when they were in St. Louis, so losing is not a new concept for me. I have an advantage of most of you, since the Panthers are not on our Sunday schedule much out here and I don't have enough appreciation for the NFL anymore to pay to make more games available. If they are on, I will watch them. I don't watch many non-Panthers games.

It is possible that we will exit this season having solidified our OL and have only a small handful of needs. That small handful of needs should be less pronounced than our needs entering the last 3 seasons (or more). The only QB currently on the roster who should be on it after the season is Corral. So, unless we sign another cast-off or a veteran, we can actually move forward with a little thought involved instead of being hamstrung by past bad decisions. There is enough talent that they could surprise us this season. They surprised us last season, but let's hope this season goes in the opposite direction.

Wait, I thought "The Process" was doing the same things over and over and expecting different results?

I wouldn't say they are contradictory statements. They were hard to play against until the weakness was figured out. As is the case with most speed defenses, running right at them can yield big gains. That was figured out in game 4. The catch is not every team is equipped to run at the opposing defense. We were still hard to play against for those offenses that rely primarily on speed and finesse. Those are the offenses that often get throttled in the playoffs, which probably ought to be a sign to our coaching staff/front office. Speed is a great asset in the NFL. But, there come times when you simply need to line up and out-muscle the opponent on either offense or defense. We haven't done that very well for a few years. We might some improvement this year on offense if our OL shows improvement. The defensive side of the ball remains a mystery to me in that respect.

I think you and I are on the same sheet of music on this, including what the barometer is for Rhule Year IV (sort of like the Friday the 13th series or Saw). If anything, bringing on some coaches with actual NFL experience may be more of a factor for Rhule than whether Mayfield, Darnold, or Corral starts the season under center.

When I read the article, I was left thinking "there are a lot of assumptions being made." For one, I am not convinced Rhule's seat is as hot as the article thinks (or 85% of this board, for that matter). I don't think he can roll another 5-12, look as clueless as he did down the stretch last year, and have as many questions at the end of the year as we had walking in. But I also don't think he needs to make the playoffs nor even climb to .500 this year. I'm not saying we shouldn't expect any of those things in year three, but the question is what has Tepper told him he needs to produce. What Tepper said to Rhule outside of the limelight is unknown to us or the writers. As Tepper showed with Ron and Hurney, he takes a while to throw in the towel on people. That supports his public statements about when the drop dead date is for Rhule. It is consistent with the patience he has shown. That may change if we finish 2022 without any noticeable improvement over 2021 (which was a regression from 2020), but that may be the only case it changes. So prepare yourself. If any or all of that is even halfway valid, Mayfield provides us very little. Sure, he is better than Darnold, but that is based on his numbers and outcomes on a team that was noticeably better than any team Darnold has played for in the NFL. Put Mayfield at the helm of the 2021 Panthers and the chunks blown may be just as big. Again, I think Mayfield is better than Darnold, but not by light years. So, all that to say we really know nothing about the entire mess. Clearly we have shown an interest in Mayfield and maybe the most interest of anybody, but that is not saying much. I just think that articles claiming Rhule "must" bring in Mayfield to save his job are overblown based on what Tepper has said and his history here, albeit brief.

I think Vick had a lot more things to work on during his hiatus than Watson. The think I remember about Vick after he came back is he was more patient in running through the receiver progressions before abandoning the pass for the run. I don't know who worked with him on that, but they "done good." I remember Vince Young showing some improvement in those same areas when he came back after a shorter hiatus. I don't think it stuck, but that could be my own very aging memory.

I suspect there are a couple of Browns forums that sound eerily similar to that right now. But yeah, this place would make a shark feeding frenzy look like a bunch of goldfish.

If Mayfield returns to Cleveland, it will be in a visiting team's uniform. Could be Carolina, Detroit, or somebody whose starter goes down before or early in the season. To recap, the Browns are out a first round pick for three years, a couple of assorted other picks, and burned the bridge with their starting QB (whether you like him or not), in exchange for the possibility that Watson someday may play for them.....maybe......assuming there are not even more allegations. And the list stops there assuming they can/would void his contract and save themselves most of the cash. To think we had people calling anybody who didn't want the Panthers all in on this fiasco idiots.

I hope Corral is right about himself. Instincts are really somebody's mind processing a situation and react so quickly they don't even know they've done it. That is true in football or anything. It is often that they have been trained so well (either by someone else or themself) that their reaction seems automatic even to them. Sam can sometimes make the right decision if he has a chance to apply conscious thought to it.........sometimes. If he is thinking about not doing something stupid, he won't. But when that thought leaves the picture, look out. Having to consciously think about (or fight) anything as a QB is not an asset.