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Problem is we would have gotten Stafford killed behind our OL last year. The second-worst scenario (definitely behind being good enough to keep Rhule around) was making a big trade for him and then having him on IR and hobbling around when he came back this year.

There were a lot of teams with concerns about Fields. I never fully understood all of them. But even so, him dropping below Lance makes my head hurt, too. I had my own concerns about Wilson, but the consensus was otherwise among the people paid to make that call so I just figured that was my own stupidity. Had the 49ers not gone all in on Lance, who knows where he would have been drafted? He could have fallen down the board below Fields. It only takes one team to elevate a guy's draft position.

We could start a new tradition on draft day. Whenever a QB is picked in the first round, they go to the podium, shake the commissioner's hand, and get two jerseys. One from the team that drafted them, and then a Panthers' jersey.

The irony of this is that given the fact we basically tore the place down to the studs in year 1, that was his best year. I had hopes when that team actually posted 5 wins and was competitive. It was the second half of year 2 and the start of this year that he looked absolutely clueless.

Gee, let me think. How about no? Does that seem unreasonable? Draft one or two, sign a cheap vet, let's see what we have in Corral and get on with life.

Definitely so. It may have been partially laziness, but how many years did we enter the draft with WR being on our major needs list? Sometimes we swung and missed, sometimes we swung at a pitch in the dirt, and sometimes we took a check-swing. Gettleman was obsessed with size and Rhule with speed. Hurney's obsession was finding diamonds in the rough after the first round. The underlying problem was they never wavered from those obsessions, despite all evidence that it was not working.

We have a long, rich history of that. First it was Cam as the one-man offense. Then it was CMC. It is just what we do. I guess we can hope the next coach has different ideas.

The irony of all that was there was a lot of swirl last year that both Kingsbury might not be back and Murray may be on his way out. Then they extended Kingsbury, picked up Murray's 5th year option and then extended him. It sounds like something the Panthers would do.

I'm wondering if they are going to leave Kingsbury in Mexico City.

Any idea what kind of job the search firm was looking to fill?

This thread is exhibit A in the case against "recency bias." My vote would be Clausen, but largely because he was thought to be the answer when he was drafted. Granted, he was rushed into service when Fox finally admitted Moore had his bell rung, but he was a product of the Notre Dame hype machine regardless.

Other quotes we would like to hear, but won't: Truth is, I was not fired. The Panthers held a competition for the HC position, and I didn't win. I gave it my all, but in the end, The Process just could not compete with that 82-year-old grandma whose only football knowledge was that our QBs all sucked. I thought it was a good plan. I told Fitts to get on the phone and sign Roman Gabriel. 10 minutes later, Tepper walked in and told me to get the eff out. I am extremely thankful for Urban Meyer The Process was working. It just needed four more years before anyone could see it And, from a title in an article today on Yahoo Sports.....I miss coaching, I haven't done it for over three years now.

He's here all week folks. Please don't forget to tip your server. And may I say, the pork chops are especially good tonight. People, be they fans or personnel people, can find a reason every one of these guys is not worth the risk. But, thanks to some brilliant moves as part of The Process, we really have little choice but to pick one with our first round pick or try to trade back into the first round after our pick to get somebody at the position. I am certainly not opposed to picking one with our first round pick and then cycling back and picking another one later on. I jokingly said in a thread a few weeks ago that we should draft a QB with every single pick we have, only I was really half-joking!

As for snap counts, Mayfield has a tick under 58.25%, Walker about 40.7%, with the rest going to Eason. The Panthers have run 639 offensive plays thus far, Mayfield has taken 372 of those snaps. That gives us an average of just over 58 offensive snaps per game. If we continue at that rate (and while it is low for the league, is has been pretty consistent), that would give us 988 snaps for the year. Mayfield would have to get to 692 to hit 70%. He'd have to have 5 more games at about the league average of plays to hit that mark, or take all the snaps in 5-1/2 games at our average. Long story short, one more game on the bench should pretty much end the discussion. Two, if we want to be safe. Six, if we are going by what he has done when on the field.

Somebody please delete this post before NFL HQ reads it. That kind of move would be something I am used to seeing at work. "Quick, the guy is utterly incompetent at his current job, so let's promote him." It's even beyond the scope of the Peter Principle, which would require success in his current job before being promoted to a job he is unqualified for.

All of those would be awful changes, so I suspect we will see every one of them plus a few that were so awful anybody that thought of them immediately dismissed them. If the competition committee wants a project, they should be tasked with reviewing the changes they have made in about the last 15 years and getting rid of most of them. Start over from there. There was a sports writer about 10 or 15 years ago that said the biggest problem with professional football is the NFL competition committee. I might argue that the biggest problem is Roger Goodell, and somewhere on that list (but perhaps behind the competition committee) is Jerome Boger's officiating crew, but the guy's observation was pretty good.

Hey, the Jets and Pats just put up a whopping 13.......with 7 coming on a punt return in the final 20 seconds. The gauntlet has been thrown down.

I take it you believe that is due to Arians' brilliance and not the fact they lost Gronk, Brady has been so-so, and they lost several other pieces (especially OL). But, sure, you're right, Arians would have had them right up there with the Vikings and Eagles. Check please!

I've never been all that sold on Arians as a HC. Without Brady and the veteran talent influx at Tampa, he would be average or slightly above. I don't hate the guy, but he is one of those coaches who is going to do things his way, even if it is not working. He and Brady apparently locked horns on that early on. Worse, he will abandon what is working to do things his way, even when the results immediately afterwards make it obvious it was a bad decision. Plus, I think that for his own longevity here on planet earth, he needs to take things easier than a HC can afford or he would be willing to. Hard pass.

It would be a reasonable bet that some of the dumber decisions Rhule made on players and positions were motivated by the fact he was coerced into bringing that player on to begin with. Bozeman, Corral, etc. The rest of the dumber decisions were just him being Rhule. And we won't get into the dumb decisions not quite up to the level qualifying them as dumber.

We have 7 left. Start Mayfield, then Darnold, then PJ, then start over, then start Hekker in game 17. Imagine the uproar if the best game one of them put up was January 8th against the Saints.

We could still use the three-starter rotation and use Hekker as the closer. He's been as solid as anybody.

Just treat the QB position like a MLB pitching staff.....use a rotation. With these three, we may want to have a rotation of two starters and then one relief QB. Hell, use one as "the closer."

If they started work today from square one, it would probably take at least five years before the stadium opened. The actual construction generally takes two or three years, and that is after site prep. Then there is bribing the local officials and regulators, fighting off the environmental impact of wiping out the habitat of native rats and mosquitos, etc. So, the real question is not whether BofA is fine now, but what will it be like in ten years or more? That's about the window that needs to be considered. FWIW, the Waltons are reportedly interested in replacing Empower (Mile High) Field already. Not sure how serious they are, but owners wanting a new stadium is pretty much a rite of passage.

I don't have a great feeling about this one. I would say the Panthers chances are no better than 15%. The Ravens are a pretty solid team. Mayfield's history against the Ravens is no help. As @grimesgoat said, his teams are 3-5 against the Ravens with a random sampling of close games and butt kickings. His stats against them are pretty close to his career average, probably just a tick under. They are learning how to win since The Process left and Wilks took over, but our wins are against NFCS teams. What remains to be accomplished is to learn how to win against good teams, which the Saints, Falcons, and Bucs (at least when we played them) were not. There is a first time for everything, hence the 15%. The planet will not spin backwards if the win, but it may stutter.