Sgt Schultz

We are not in a complete rebuild, and probably don't need to be. We have a decent OL, but little depth. We knew coming in that if any of our starters there missed time it was going to be trouble. But I am of the thinking that OL need to be added every year, if nothing else to shore up depth. 300+ pound guys grinding on other 300+ pound guys are going to get hurt. We have some defensive pieces in place. Secondary is a problem, especially since Horn can't stay on the field. The skill positions on offense are in a total rebuild. That, combined with the injuries and lack of OL depth to deal with them is a huge problem. Thus far we look like a team with dysfunctional skill players on offense and injuries on the OL and no depth to deal with them.

I remember seeing that play. They showed a replay of it and I thought we escaped a bullet. I guess not quite.

Let's just say our skill positions on offense leave something to be desired. We have receivers not running routes well, not adjusting to the play, and the routes they are not running very well aren't that well conceived. Otherwise, than design and execution, our passing game is perfect!

I would submit to you that about 24-36 hours ago, those last two words were out the window.

And those fans have a lot to throw a shitshow over. The A's may be following the Raiders to Vegas, or they certainly want to. Between a chronically bad product on a bad field to potentially no product on any field at all, it has to be toxic........and deja vu. And there isn't much they can do about either of those things. Not for nothing, but one of the facilities I deal with (and used to work at) is in the East Bay. On a trip out there, a bunch of us went to an A's game. They claimed there were 10,000 people there, but I'd say about 70% of those were dressed as empty seats. You could literally hear on-field conversations from the stands because it was so quiet. Rather eerie. Oakland is not a happy place right now.

But I did get a good chuckle on the way out!

I had the same thought. That said, I thought the "mid life" thread was fine. That was a lot less about jumping off the cliff after two weeks than it was thinking about ending it all after 25 years.

I was living in northern Virginia for Joe Gibb's second stint as Foreskins head coach. I was not then, nor will I ever be a fan of whatever the name of the team is in DC, but I was force-fed the stuff since I lived there. They drafted Jason Campbell late in the first round. Gibbs liked him a lot, and he was billed as the future franchise QB. Gibbs drilled into him that whatever else he did or didn't do, just do not throw interceptions. You guessed it, he responded by being averse to throwing the ball downfield. Almost everything was within 10 yards of the LOS, and generally even shorter. I don't know what Campbell was capable of becoming. He had talent, and he wound up with a decent career as a journeyman. But I always felt that we never saw whatever his upper limit was because his first three years having "just don't throw interceptions" beat into him. Not throwing interceptions is important. Being afraid to throw interceptions is a different story.

Expecting almost any WR coming out of college to run precise routes is about like expecting a rookie QB to walk into the NFL and be able to single-handedly lead an otherwise poorly-designed, poorly called, and poorly executed offense to greatness. @frankw is correct, the same (reasonable) expectations and standards apply to both. Generally young WRs have not had to be precise route runners in the past. Don't get me wrong, some do, but they are generally not the guys you are going to find in the second round and often not in the back end of the first. It is the same as a rookie QB having to learn just how fast NFL defenses are. How many saw anything close to that on a weekly basis? Both Mingo and Young have learning to do. It's called being a rookie in the NFL. As far as the Panther PR machine leading people to believe this was a playoff team ready to launch, what did we expect them to say, the truth? "Strap in Panther fans, the first half of the season may be ugly." As for people on this here forum thinking we would be 12-5 and a playoff menace, well, that is another story. The relationship between unrealistic expectations and disappointment applies. But, they are called fans (fanatics) for a reason.

@TheBigKat, all I can tell you is my own situation that I have said a few times on this here forum. I've been an NFL and NHL fan since I was 8, back to 1969. I grew up in St. Louis, so I am a Blues fan in hockey and was a Cardinals fan in the NFL (although more of a general NFL fan). The Cardinals were hopeless, but I supported them anyway. As for the Blues, almost every year they were good enough to make the Stanley Cup playoffs and good enough to generally get bounced in the first or second round. It didn't matter how good or bad their regular season was, from 1971 on they were not to be found in the Stanley Cup Finals and almost never in the conference finals. In 1970 (and 69 and 68) they were in the finals, but the way the league was structured, one expansion team from 1966 was going, it was them, and they were swept all three years. I moved from St. Louis in 1988 (as did the NFL Cardinals) and the only loyalty I had to the place was the Blues. The yearly futility continued. Making the playoffs in the NHL (as you may know) is not a big accomplishment since half the teams do. I had accepted that I would leave this earth without seeing them win the Stanley Cup. They didn't even qualify for the 2018 playoffs, losing out in the last game of the regular season. Approaching the midpoint of the 2019-2019 regular season they had the worst record in the entire league, had an interim coach, and had talent but looked lost. Then the 2019 playoffs happened. Long story shorter, in each of the four rounds they had a chance to do the usual "spring melt." Each time, with me watching and waiting for the inevitable point where they eff it up, they responded to the challenge in a big way. And, at 58 years of age after watching them for 50 years, I was fortunate enough to see them skate with the Stanley Cup. The two morals of this story are: When you least expect it, expect it I was much happier after I gave up all hope

I thought this was Jeopardy! "Who are Moe, Larry, and Curley?"

He's retired now so it is probably not worth the effort. Now Roger Goodell.......

Just out of curiosity, did you ever do one of these for Jerome Boger?

Maybe I am confusing it with their release time, then. Which would include time outside of the pocket before the release. So, not so much of an anomaly. My bad.

If that continues, the league will no doubt change the rules. DL and onrushing blitzers will have to count to "3 Mississippi" before crossing the LOS, or some other such tripe. I would guess the number will go up as offenses settle in (usually after 3 or 4 games), but who knows. It may just be some new trend.