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I caught this on SI and wanted takes on how widespread these thoughts are on our off-season. article by Gilberto Manzano in SI on 23rd about the 8 teams that “got better” in off-season. Do any of you remember anything about our courtship of Derek Carr? I don’t even remember officially hearing that we were going after him (and I wanted us to) much less that he snubbed us and in disgust we said Fug It and traded away the store to get our pick. Interesting that this is a major media take on our moves https://apple.news/ACWO6iUzgQQGEpbnZuu4thA The Panthers have been searching for a franchise quarterback for nearly three years, and they finally realized the veteran route isn’t the way to go. They tried with Teddy Bridgewater, Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield, and even went back to Cam Newton for a bit. After getting rejected by Derek Carr, Carolina said enough is enough and acquired the No. 1 pick from the Bears in exchange for draft picks and No. 1 wideout DJ Moore,

I take back what I said in earlier thread

He loves the west coast but , we lookin for that ring too.

Just looking at other threads here (I am no expert) we had $29m in cap before Chark. Take out his $5m and $15m cushion for rookies/ injuries we have $9 “open to buy”. Bobby Wagner in this defense would be deadly , imho

No answer but……Are we done in Free Agency to leave that out of equation? not sure there is a draftabke LB at 39+ that is plug and play Luvu had an epic year I would advocate inside so offenses don’t just run to other side

I may not like you as a “most of thetime” fan, but you have real talent at making thread titles.

Pat Macafee spending a lot of airtime on Cam recently. PacMan Jones has thoughts

Rappaport retweeted #thirsty

Logjam at numbers seem to be breaking up with the jets moves.

I don’t see how you can pass on Young. But if they do I trust this staff.

As long as we’re dreaming why not both sign Thielen and trade for Hopkins?

#PantherDraftStrategy2023

Better hold up on any summaries. This front office means keep hitting refresh!

I disagree. Zod is a busy man. This site’s content doesn’t write itself! (Or it doesn’t if you don’t ask for it!)

#nflscriptwriters

I have found that if you turn the channel whenever there is a Rogers or Dallas cowboys "news" story you will lead a happier life. Even the actual talking heads are getting sick of it.

Would not hate David Montgomery

I remember that and I remember battling with Jag boards via Observer and AOL boards. Never change being a prick, pete.

apparently the blue check mark still means something

btw, ex-jag beat writer pete prickso plays gm again and gives us an A for Aggression but F for the trade. He does not buy either Young or Stroud as worthy to move up that far. https://www.google.com/search?q=prisco+on+panthers+trade&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS856US856&oq=prisco+on+panthers+trade&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i160.9368j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:fc16757f,vid:RyQJ21EulfE

I mean, you could be right. I'd be happy with Young because that meant he killed his Pro Day. But the addition of DJ to the deal is what has me thinking that Stroud is either the pick or the "insurance" pick if Young blows his Pro Day. I don't see any way we give up DJ without a thorough evaluation of Young and I don't mean confirming his height/weight. And the reports about CHI wanting the deal done b4 FA goes both ways. We get more flexibility now as well. DJ was the biggest cap hit on the team and the loss of his on field #'s is going to hurt. But he was never a locker room leader and his numbers last season can be replicated with better qb play. Don't get me wrong, I had a #2 Jersey and I'm going to miss him and follow his career from now on. But that jersey and my Cam, Steve Smith and 22 jersey are why I am never buying a Brian Burns jersey.

I think the pundits are overthinking and King is closest to the mark. With Young holding out on the combine they saw enough from Stroud to go up to #1 and get their guy. “Their Guy” could change after pro day workouts but it was Stroud’s combine that launched this move. Yes Tepper chased Watson but was out when ante was upped to fully guaranteed. That meant Lamar was never a serious consideration. Tepper and our FO have been wrong before but the knew another reclamation project like Carr or Jimmy G was not going to fly with the fan base or get us out of mediocrity. Whether it is Young or Stroud or a trade back or Levis/Richardson (btw, I don’t buy moving to qb3 or 4 with DJ in the package) Tepper has Panther fans excited for the first time since the NFL scripted the bronco SB “win” and deserves a hell of a lot of credit for both this gutsy trade and this new staff.

Controlling the #1 pick means controlling the draft. From the timing of the rumors the Panthers brain trust saw enough from CJ at the combine to move up and on from DJ. At the worst, they get the guy they want. But that doesn’t preclude another target or targets moving up after pro days. I think the talk about moving back down just is an honest answer that they aren’t done scouting the pick.

That’s what I came to thread for. Heard we are snagging Courtland

Best chance is to make offer to Lamar. Not saying that is going to happen or that we could afford it. But you can’t deny it is the best chance.