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Top 2 guys from what position??
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Looking at Success or Failure of top 10 to 12 QBs since 2000
Sub Zero replied to Hoenheim's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yeah this was a bad attempt.. You tried to make a fact based breakdown but used your personal opinion to rate the QB’s??? Lmao -
If they traded that much to get up and draft a project.. I might need a few months to convince myself that they aren’t idiots and know what they’re doing.. The whole time feeling really sick ..
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I’m not so sure now especially if Zay doesn’t drop..
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Yes but still not a big impact with 3 tds in 2 years..
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You name 2 TE I can name 10 for every 2.. Let me know when you’re ready.. And last I’ll do what the fug I want when I post worry about your own poo..
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Yeah you kinda went off the track with that 1..
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Honestly as soon as you brought up Kyle pitts having a big impact for the Falcons you should have stopped.. Lmao
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And this is where we get to the same conclusion.. Why would it be a better option?? What are you basing that on?? The only player who has been a number 1 TE what in the Pros is Hurst.. Not any rookie you draft has done anything in the NFL and still needs to go thru the transition that Hurst has done already..
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Did he?? Beyond the fact you’re talking about a guy drafted top 5.. Has he really made a big impact for the falcons??? They run the ball more then anybody.. Their passing offense isn’t even in the top 25 .. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PittKy00.htm 1st year 28 rec.. 300 yards 2 tds??? 2nd year 68 rec 1000 yards 1 TD?? Solid 2nd season (yards and rec.) but 1 TD is big impact??
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Another Quote where you think you can upgrade from Hurst with a 2nd round rookie… So again this is a statement of a person who doesn’t think it takes time for TE to transition into the nfl..
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Alright cool.. Look at it how you want to.. But that’s exactly what you’re saying.. lol
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I would have NT higher but it’s also a hard transition position and when starting a 3/4 transition.. You want more of a vet Presence for couple years with man strength anchoring the front.. I would take a flier on a kid in the later rounds to develop…
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Here’s your quote.. If you think it not unlikely for a rookie to be better then a guy who has proven to be a number 1 TE still in his prime..
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Yea you are if you think a rookie TE would come in and be better then Hurst.. Which is literally what you’ve been saying..
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Yes just stop because you have unreal expectations based off nothing.. I’m sorry that Hurst will probably be the best TE on the roster no matter who they draft based on experience and how hard the transition is for this position..
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Dude reality check it’s rare for TE’s to come in and be productive.. It’s a hard transition position.. Just like QB, Oline , Dline, It takes time..
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You do realize that’s what most TE have to do when they brought in.. It’s rare they come in and be Kelce .. Kittles took 2 years so did Andrew’s and Godert.. What are you talking about…
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30 isn’t old for a TE.. This isn’t RB again.. Olson played till 36.. Kelce is 33.. Kittles is 29..
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Hurst s in his prime now he is 29 years old???
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Okay but I don’t want to spend a top 50 pick on a player I got to wait 3 years for.. JMO.. I can get a similar prospect in the 4th or 5th round..
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https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/O/OlseGr00.htm Olson was a better prospect then any TE in this draft and didn’t start ramping up till season 3…
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Top 2 what??
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Yes it is.. The disrespect for Hurst is funny when in his draft he would be seen as Mayers and Kincade equal… Honestly Hurst would be TE 1 or 2 in this draft coming out of South Carolina… Lets really look at reality.. Greg Olsen was a top 10 prospect at TE and didn’t produce his 1st few seasons.. And he was better then any TE coming out this season.. Again you’re not looking at the transitions aspect of this.. This isn’t RB or Wr .. TE for the most part take time get up to speed in the pro game..