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Yeah he is but now that cap manipulation is with 35 year old players contracts not 26 to 30 year old players contracts.. They are extending contracts of players close to retirement age.. They can’t make big moves in Fa and will have to cut players just to sign their draft class.. This will be epic when it fails..
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I was talking about favorite in the South thing..
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Exactly.. The team should have been on rebuild mode when Brees and Payton left.. Bit they refuse to do this and the cap magic they do isn’t for a Super Bowl contender but barley winning a bad division now.. This will blow in their faces and they have set themselves back atleast 6 years now..
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Why??
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They are trying to save a bad coaching staff (like we did last year) and set themselves back atleast 6 years.. good !!!! not worried about the Saints at all..
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The defense is old and the Oline is Falling apart .. Im good that they are trying to avoid a rebuild they should be doing..
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Legit QB is my problem with this statement..
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Oh yes let them kick out good money for a meh QB and watch the cuts coming.. oh happy day
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REPORT: Panthers to aggressive pursue trade up to get a QB
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The fact he took ( what he thought was bpa) and got a B!!! All those glorious picks and still got a trash draft.. lmao -
REPORT: Panthers to aggressive pursue trade up to get a QB
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You’re predicting a bigger class that might not happen while predicting this team will be bad enough to be close to any of the prospects.. A lot of if’s and maybe in this plan as well.. While right now we have a top 10 pick and the amino to move up.. Maybe you don’t like this class but overall this is a solid class of QB.. Strike while the you’re in position to.. Don’t wait and fall into trap looking at a worst situation trying to move up next year.. -
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And that opinion of waiting next year is a lot of hoping and praying and either as risky or even a bigger risk.. -
You might not be sure but that’s not reality at this point.. Showing history doesn’t change the situation now.. Hou, Indy, Seattle, La, Atlanta, even Detroit could take a Qb… That’s 6 teams infront of us.. Washington, Tampa, NO all have the aggression to trade up ahead of us.. There are only 4 1st round graded QB’s in this draft… None of their stocks have drop but increased.. At this point the math says you’re not getting a QB at 9..
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Maybe but you didn’t bring a all star cast of QB whispers to punt on getting a QB…
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REPORT: Panthers to aggressive pursue trade up to get a QB
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Carr isn’t a dummy.. Other then playing in the AFC or the AFCE being a problem.. The Jets give him the best chance at success and situation best fits him now as a QB.. -
REPORT: Panthers to aggressive pursue trade up to get a QB
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Again your opinion which is okay.. But it doesn’t live in reality.. 1. Just because Young isn’t on your draft board.. Doesn’t mean he isn’t number 1 on actually teams draft boards.. In reality just to let you know.. Other then his size and weight.. Young based on every other metric ever used by scouts in NFL history.. Is more of a perfect prospect then Mahomes, Allen, Burrows and Jackson.. His QB intelligence, passing anticipation, quick decision making and play making accument is on the same level as Andrew Luck.. Asked any scout you might know.. 2. “This draft is no way in the world comparable to Mahomes, Allen and Burrows” Reality Check Burrows as a prospect was seen similar to Zach Wilson = 1 year wonders and honestly Wilson was seen with more physical talent and potential.. Burrows was a transfer who couldn’t beat out Haskins or Fields who had 1 incredible season in the Sec with the best set of weapons in college history.. Mahomes physically talent wasn’t as clear at Texas Tech and he didn’t have great college production.. He wasn’t graded higher coming out near Young or Stroud who both have better college tape and better college production.. And Allen was seen as similar to Levi’s is now both had horrible final college seasons both have accuracy and bad college decision making tape but both have crazy physical talent that makes scouts and coaches drool for potential.. Allen success alone will get Levi’s drafted top 7 in this draft.. And With Jalen Hurt success since this is a copy cat league .. Richardson will be pushed higher then expected.. His potential alone will (which is now a big scouting thing) get him drafted higher then 9 now.. So the normal past ways of looking at prospects have change because the success of QB already in the league.. 3. Final I don’t know how you think that Tepper buying this staff is in anyway a downgrade to the staff last year that went 7-10 after firing a head coach and staff “during the season” Trading the face of the franchise and another primary offense weapon.. Playing with 3 different QB,s Major injuries in the secondary… How is better competent coaching a better plan for the organization a weaker division (no Brady) and weaker NFC.. Not a recipe for a better team?? -
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Honestly Verge ppl have been taking this football forum to seriously and you just got to let this poo roll off your back.. It’s just opinions from strangers it don’t matter… I follow you on Twitter so I know life has been lifing and posting info here shouldn’t be a priority anyway.. Congratulations again on your work and some here still appreciate your info and contributions to this site.. -
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Just my opinion.. The waiting on next year plan is a failed proposition.. Because nobody can predict next year prospects anymore.. NiL, Injuries and just having a bad season has changed that.. -
REPORT: Panthers to aggressive pursue trade up to get a QB
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Hey @mrcompletely11 beetlejuice beetlejuice beetlejuice!! -
REPORT: Panthers to aggressive pursue trade up to get a QB
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Okay I understand this plan on boundaries.. But it doesn’t live in reality.. 1. Who knows if next year QB class will be that good.. Both Williams and Maye have another year of eligibility.. With NIL they can easily go back to school and get paid.. 2. There has only been 3 recognized perfect QB prospects Lawrence, Luck, and Elway in the history of the nfl draft.. everybody else had ? Marks.. So this draft is no different from the Burrows, Mahomes, or Allen drafts.. Add in the fact that if there are “better prospects “ in next years draft.. It’s almost a certainty that the teams with those picks aren’t trading away their chance at getting those guys.. 3. If you have any faith in this new staff.. You also must know that this team will be better and won’t be in position next year to get a QB.. If you believe we made good decisions in the coaching then you must believe this team will be to good to get a QB next year.. So reality is it will cost more to go get 1 next year.. right?? -
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So what is your plan?? You keep saying some hold general statement “pick” right with no substance.. Atleast I’ve kept my opinion Focus and precise… -
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I know we’ve been “picking” the wrong path for 4 years now… Im also starting to see you truly don’t have a plan other then waiting on the perfect situation to happen and being meh until then..