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Feelings about who we should have picked aside….he’s going to be a top CB in this league very quick.

No big deal, we just have to suffer for yet another year. Who is ready for another hot start, then the train wreck for the the other 13 games after that.

At 6? No….if we traded down and picked up an extra 1st, 2nd, or 3rd and got Pickett as well as another opportunity to address the O line with the extra pick? Yes. At 6 it’s Left tackle or we riot

True but who do we even have at LB? We have to bring someone in to fill the role because we currently only have Shaq under contract. We have invested heavy in D line and almost nothing at LB over the last 3-4 years

I could see Shaq at MLB and Chinn filling the OLB/Joker role

Great point on cap space. I wonder which route they will go because technically we have to fill two starter roles. I don’t even know who our backups are at this point for injuries

True. I could see our high 4th round pick possibly being a MLB but we definitely need someone besides Shaq. He’s the only one under contract

Matt Rhule has handled the Middle Linebacker position about as well as he has QB and LT over his first two seasons. With most of our resources going into fixing the offense this offseason (thank god) it makes me wonder what we will do this off-season to address this critical position. While Carter was an upgrade from Whitehead, he is clearly a backup player who is capable of filling in and being solid for a short time. This has always been a position we have thrived at, and is one of the positions that can help shore up our run defense. What would you do to fix huddle GM’s? What realistic free agent catches your eye?

His playbook was decent but his play calling, situational awareness, and adjustments were ass. He may get better with time, but he absolutely deserves to get fired….right along with Rhule.

This is a great topic. If I were GM, and Rhule already decided he was picking QB at 6, I would have already come up with a plan to plug and play two critical roles on the line through FA. Being that this is make believe here is my plan: I fill LT and center in free agency. Being that we need a MLB as well, I go with a stop gap at LT for this year and sign Duane Brown to a contract similar to the one Whitworth signed recently 2 years 17 million. I then sign G/C Bradley Bozeman from the Ravens at an average of 12-13 million per year. That will help us out tremendously compared to last year as Our line would be (Brown LT, Christensen LG, Bozeman Center, TBD RG, Moton RT). We have Erving and Elf as backup LT and C, which is what they should be, and I use the high 4th round pick for the best guard prospect I can find to compete for the RG spot along with Brown from last years class. You can also sign one cheap vet at G to compete for the RG role as this will be a much easier position to fill.

I agree on guards, although we may only need one if Christensen sticks at LG next season. Elf was far from decent though. He wasn’t good at all actually and ended up with a 55 PFF along with being injury prone which he has been almost every year he has played

6 foot 7 322 pounds. Good lawd

I would absolutely love to trade back a few spots to pick up a 2nd round pick and still get a stud player on the line with our first. We could also just stick with the best LT at 6. Can you imagine watching a player on our line perform like this rather than being a damn speed bump. I’m sick of being abused in the trenches. GET ME SOME BIG NASTY HOG MOLLIES

All the feels. I can’t wait to have pride in the team again like we did during this run. Such a magical time.

Sad to think about.

I agree with everything that you said other than Elf showing enough at center. He was horrible, and I cringe thinking about him being depended on as our starter next season

When did we turn down two first and a top of the third round trade to draft Horn? Where did that come from??

I would absolutely love this. I believe center will be a huge position for us to fill, and I cringe thinking about Elf starting half the games for us before playing like hot garbage and being injured. Finding a decent FA G won’t be that hard…maybe even the draft, but center has to be addressed and I don’t see another situation in the draft where we can get a starter unless we trade back and get lucky. Bozeman would be a great pickup

I tend to agree with you, but some time in an NFL weight room could pay off by next season if he sticks to one position. I see him long term as a valuable backup LT and G but I don’t see this staff sticking with him as a starting LT, they simply refuse to entertain it for some reason.

Absolutely. I think if we can get C and G in free agency we will be set up well. Imagine a stud at number 6 overall at LT, Brady at LG, Stud FA Center, Stud FA RG, Moton at RT.

This is from the Athletic Article on top 75 free agents coming up. I figured I would compile the list of O line players from this list so that we can all dream collectively as a group. I assume we have two positions locked down next year: Taylor Moton at RT, Brady Christensen at LG (this isn’t up for debate…we all know the staff will not start him at LT next year). I almost put a locked down position of LT which will hopefully be what we do at pick number 6 overall, but I’ll leave it up to you. As GM, how would you address free agency to set up up on the draft? 2. Orlando Brown Jr., OT, Kansas City Chiefs (26) Brown has leverage and is in terrific position to cash in. The Chiefs traded for him last offseason but did not sign Brown to an extension as part of the deal. He’s played well for them at left tackle and has missed just one game in his career. He’s young, durable, good and plays a premium position. The Chiefs could use the franchise tag on Brown, but that would essentially just be kicking the can down the road a year. If they don’t tag him, Brown very well could become the highest-paid offensive lineman in the NFL with a deal worth north of $23 million per year. 5. Terron Armstead, OT, New Orleans Saints (31) The big question with Armstead is durability. He dealt with a number of injuries in 2021 and has played in 37 of a possible 49 games over the past three seasons. But when Armstead is on the field, he’s one of the best left tackles in the NFL. This is a position where demand outweighs supply. Trent Williams set the top of the market last offseason with a deal worth just more than $23 million per year. There are eight left tackles making $16 million per year or more, and Armstead will make that nine. 12. Brandon Scherff, OG, Washington Football Team (30) The big question with Scherff is durability. He missed six games in 2021 and has been sidelined for 14 of a possible 49 games over the past three seasons. When he’s on the field, Scherff is still a high-quality right guard. According to PFF, he did not allow a sack and gave up just one QB hit on 398 pass-blocking snaps last season. Joel Bitonio signed an extension with the Cleveland Browns in November worth $16 million per year. And Joe Thuney signed for $16 million per year with the Kansas City Chiefs last offseason. Scherff, who has played the past two years on the franchise tag, will likely find a deal in that same neighborhood if teams can get over the durability concerns. 14. Ryan Jensen, OC, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (31) He’s a tone-setter who thrives on getting under the skin of opposing defensive players. Jensen has been one of the best centers (arguably the best) in the NFL for years now. He hasn’t missed a game in the past five seasons. And we had him as a second-team All-Pro for 2021. Corey Linsley was in a similar spot last offseason and landed a deal worth $12.5 million per year. Jensen could easily top that and become the highest-paid center in the NFL. 17. Cam Robinson, OT, Jacksonville Jaguars (26) You’re probably thinking, “Based on performance, there’s no way that Robinson should be 17th!” And you’re right. But positional value matters. And competent left tackles get big paydays. I don’t make the rules! The Jaguars used the franchise tag ($13.7 million) on him last offseason. Robinson has been inconsistent in his five-year NFL career, but he’s started 61 games, including 44 over the past three seasons. PFF charged Robinson with just one sack allowed on 573 pass-blocking snaps last season. The floor for starting left tackles in free agency — specifically ones in their mid-20s — is around $14.5 million per year. 17. Cam Robinson, OT, Jacksonville Jaguars (26) You’re probably thinking, “Based on performance, there’s no way that Robinson should be 17th!” And you’re right. But positional value matters. And competent left tackles get big paydays. I don’t make the rules! The Jaguars used the franchise tag ($13.7 million) on him last offseason. Robinson has been inconsistent in his five-year NFL career, but he’s started 61 games, including 44 over the past three seasons. PFF charged Robinson with just one sack allowed on 573 pass-blocking snaps last season. The floor for starting left tackles in free agency — specifically ones in their mid-20s — is around $14.5 million per year. 27. Laken Tomlinson, OG, San Francisco 49ers (30) He made the Pro Bowl for the first time in 2021 after turning in another strong performance. Tomlinson has not missed a game over the past four seasons and has played 100% of the team’s offensive snaps over the past three seasons. Tomlinson will likely be one of the most coveted offensive linemen in this year’s class. 28. Brian Allen, OC, Los Angeles Rams (26) After starting nine games in 2019, Allen suffered a serious knee injury and never saw the field in 2020. But Allen bounced back in a big way in 2021, starting 16 games and playing at a high level. Given that Allen is just 26 years old, it would be no surprise to see him find a strong market among center-needy teams. 29. Bradley Bozeman, G/C, Baltimore Ravens (27) Bozeman played left guard in 2019 and 2020 before sliding over to center in 2021. He’s been a quality starter and extremely durable with 48 starts over the past three seasons. Frank Ragnow set the top of the center market at $13.5 million per year. There are currently eight centers who make $10 million or more per year. 30. Eric Fisher, OT, Indianapolis Colts (31) I will repeat myself once again here: Left tackles get paid! Based purely on performance, Fisher should be nowhere near this spot. But supply and demand matter. Fisher was coming off of an Achilles injury last offseason and signed a one-year, $8.4 million deal with the Colts. He started 15 games and held up better as a run blocker than a pass blocker, where he allowed seven sacks and 11 quarterback hits. More half of the NFL’s left tackles (18 to be exact) are making at least $11 million per year. Charles Leno’s three-year, $37 million deal with Washington could be a good comp for Fisher. 38. Trent Brown, OT, New England Patriots (29) When he was last a free agent in 2019, Brown signed a four-year, $66 million deal with the (then) Oakland Raiders. He played just 16 games in two seasons for the Raiders, who then traded him back to the Patriots. The issue with Brown is durability. He’s played in just 14 games over the past two seasons. But when he’s on the field, Brown performs. And he can play left or right tackle. Given the demand for quality offensive linemen around the league, Brown should find a market. 41. Alex Cappa, OG, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (27) He started 17 games at right guard last season and played well. Cappa has not been a Pro Bowl-caliber player, but he’s been solid and has started 46 of a possible 49 games over the past three seasons. Matt Feiler signed for $7 million per season with the Los Angeles Chargers last offseason, and Kevin Zeitler signed for $7.5 million per year with the Baltimore Ravens. Those deals could represent the floor for a potential deal with Cappa. 43. Duane Brown, OT, Seattle Seahawks (37) He’s been remarkably durable, having not missed a start over the past two seasons. Brown has missed just four games in the past four years (all in 2019). He’s obviously past his prime, but demand always outweighs supply for left tackles. Andrew Whitworth got a two-year, $17 million deal from the Rams at the age of 40 last offseason. That’s probably the contract to work off of for Brown. 50. Morgan Moses, OT, New York Jets (31) The Jets signed Moses in July after Washington released him, and he started 16 games at right tackle. Moses has been incredibly durable. He hasn’t missed a game in the past seven seasons. At 31, Moses’ best days are probably behind him, but he can still be a solid starter. Daryl Williams got $8 million per year from the Buffalo Bills last offseason, and Riley Reiff signed with the Cincinnati Bengals for $7.5 million. Those could be reasonable comps for Moses. 52. Andrew Norwell, OG, Jacksonville Jaguars (30) In 2018, Norwell signed a five-year deal with the Jaguars worth $13.3 million per year. He took a pay cut down to $9 million last season and now will become a free agent. Norwell’s best days are behind him (he was an All-Pro in 2017), but he can still be a solid starter at left guard. He could be looking at a contract in the $7 million per year range, which is what Kevin Zeitler and Matt Feiler signed for last offseason. 58. Ben Jones, OC, Tennessee Titans (33) Jones has been a quality starter for a long time, and his durability is nearly unmatched. Jones has been active for 160 of a possible 161 games since entering the league in 2012. He’s missed just one start in the last eight seasons. Jones will be an attractive option for teams that are looking for a reliable veteran center. 69. James Daniels, OG, Chicago Bears (25) Originally the 39th overall pick in 2018, Daniels has not proven to be more than an average starter through his first four seasons. But teams could be attracted to his youth and upside. There’s the possibility that Daniels could find more consistency on his next contract and be an ascending player. He has 48 starts under his belt, including 17 last year. I pray we get two from this list. Also here is a pic of one of the GOATS even though he’s not a linemen. RIP killa

No problem paying him as long as we cut Anderson after this season (only 3.8 million dead cap after that) and let our rookie WR’s actually play and step up. We can sign a cheap vet to play with them and call it a wrap. DJ deserves to get paid, and we can afford it once Anderson is gone and DJ’s new contract kicks in at that point

Draft the best LT at #6 in round one, sign Fitzpatrick to compete with Darnold, sign one of the best guards in FA along with a MLB, use rounds 4-7 on center/guard prospects.

The key to this is you have to have your QB in place….when you have one that you know can win you games when it’s all on the line you can then be aggressive to get the pieces around him.