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3 hours ago, CRA said:

No.  We beat 2 teams that featured rookies on and teams making their NFL debut and a hurricane displaced team that lost all their coaches to covid.  

We struggled to beat Jets.  We got very lucky with Sam putting the ball multiple times on the ground vs Hou.   And the Saints were a complete mess for a thousand reasons  

 

nobody is saying none of that was not true. but after week 3, everyone was hyped, Ruhle was a genius, and we thought we got a steal in Darnold.

Joe Brady was more of a fraud then anyone that didn't suit up.

Or blame Tepper, Mr. Hedge fund high-risk was so desperate for a QB he went out and traded a bunch for Darnold. My guess is that Rhule never called up Tepper and say "ya know what, I think that kid in New York has got something special."

8 minutes ago, jackson113 said:

Schefter is a mark and puts nothing into perspective. Comparably, only us and the Giants have/had a head coach with only 2 years under their belt. every other coach was either there 3+ years or we are talking 1st year head coaches. 

1.       Panthers – second year head coach.

2.       Giants – second year head coach

3.       Vikings – long term coach.

4.       Broncos – given three years.

5.       Bears – long term coach.

6.       Dolphins – decision to fire their coach was awful and he was given 3 years.

7.       Jags – well…we all know.

8.       Jets – first year coach.

9.       Lions – first year coach.

10.   Texans – first year coach.

11.   Falcons – first year coach.

7 minutes ago, ENCPantherfan2 said:

I mean hell, even Stephen Ross met with the media after firing Flores to explain himself.

and we didn't fire a coach, so how is this an example?

1 hour ago, Kuhndog94 said:

Picking it up at the time was dumb. Darnold gave no indication that he is a starter in this league. I've been saying it all year. I said the first 3 weeks. He ain't it. 

And I would respect him more if he came out and said "I made a mistake" but he fumbled over his words and said "B-b-but it was a group decision guys! Don't look at me!" 

Darnold is a dog, but the price is cheap. But it wasn't his mistake. none of us know if Ruhle wanted Darnold. We tried and failed at Watson, tried and failed at Stafford. 

no. you guys just are all marks and go with the ups and downs. he went into it hoping for the best, it started off great and ended in a disaster. 

what's he going to say "man i really wish we didn't pick up his extension." picking it up at the time was smart - its $20mil for a QB, which is a bargain. 

you all are clowns. 

what would you expect him to say? remember all of you were probably blowing Darnold after week 3. 

1 hour ago, WOW!! said:

Name me another few QB's other then Burrows.. Where that was a winning strategy then I'll shut up..

Don't worry I'll wait..

But facts are Will Grier was a better Prospect coming out and had more years of college production and he was barely a 3rd round pick..

Kyler Murray. 

12 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Kenny Pickett is a 1 year wonder  1 year younger the Sam Darnold.. It took him 5 years to have that 1 good year.. In most years with good QB prospects he would be a 2nd or 3rd round pick.. 

This would be a horrible pick for us for many reasons.. Beyond the major red flags of hes older his arm isn't elite, he is a okay athlete and it took him 5 years to be a draft worthy prospect..

1. The coaching staff that might be doing the pick..

2. Picking  him eliminates adding day 1 starting talent for the Oline..

3. Since he is not a great prospect.. Like a Lawrence, Wison , Lance or Fields.. Yours forcing a QB on your next coaching hire he might not want..

So was Joe Burrow. This argument is bad, move on. Do not counter with Joe Burrow was highly recruited, so were many garbage QBs. 

we need 2 guards and a center. all year the IOL has been so hard to watch. 

22 hours ago, 4Corners said:

Baker 2.0

Min and Philly losing are needed. Saints are right with us but we beat them once and play them again. I'd rather we win and saints win and keep philly behind us. 

Cam's deep pass to Moore is the first throw down the field I can remember (completed or not) in weeks, and weeks. These plays result in PI sometimes and take these 1 on 1 shots is worth it for that reason. 

we will need 9 wins to make the playoffs. losing the tie breakers to Min and Phi hurt. 

Bringing Cam back at least adds hope and excitement for a potential WC spot. With PJ Walker it is just a joke and no reason to watch. 

32 minutes ago, trueblade said:

Many of those OCs are head coaches : McVay, Kingsbury, Lefleur, Sean Payton.

But there are several good teams whose OC is in the booth. Buffalo and Dallas OCs call the game from the booth for example.

i've never seen Kellen Moore in the booth. 

First, I do not believe Sam is a good QB. 

But, second, can we and should we blame our coaching? Specifically, why in the HECK is our OC sitting up in a booth smacking his gum and not coaching. Every good team, their OC's are down on the sidelines actually coaching. Sam goes out and throws a pick and there is nobody to talk to him about coverages with, look at their dumb Microsoft services and find something maybe that might work....?

He fails and he puts his hat on and gets no coaching. The coaching is failing him just as much. You can prepare as much as you want during the week but things change. Even Tom Brady is on the sidelines speaking with Byron Leftwitch.

I think this is a complete failure on Rhule and Brady.  

this is a pretty good outline of the process.

https://www.nfl.com/playerhealthandsafety/health-and-wellness/player-care/concussion-protocol-return-to-participation-protocol

4 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

That's not true. I'd rather start a three day old, half eaten ham sandwich than Sam Darnold.

we say that now but nobody did headed into the Hou game and then CMC got hurt and its all went downhill. 

he was the option because nobody was better?

anyone that thinks/says Watson will not get suspended based on the charges is a moron. Zeek was not guilty - suspended. big ben didnt even have charges against him and was suspended 6 games. 

i dont see how you could trade 3 first rounds for a guy that will probably get suspended for 8 games next year. 

picking up Darnold 5th year really wasn't a bad move and cap friendly. he has no help with his coaching and o-line. the middle of this o-line is so bad and it exposes Darnold. Darnold has the quality that you do not want in a QB-feeling like you have to force throws and you can make the throw on every play. 

There may be related topics, but...

We started off 3-0 against 3 bad teams and we are all hype. 

Then we go 0-2, which really should of been 1-1 in all our eyes. We win that game against Philly and I think we ALL feel really good, but we blew it.  

Now we are in a winnable game this week with 2 upcoming road games (both winnable, but Atl coming off bye and I think NYG is better than their win/loss record). 

We win Sunday and then split the roadies (worst case scenario is a split I feel) and are looking at 5-3. Still in great playoff shape. 

We lose and then fall even further in our road games and could be staring at 3-5 with more questions then we had going into the season.

throw Brady out there see what we got in him. 

i'd say its too early to tell. it could def light a fire under him and force us to resign him. all depends on how CJ and SG perform.