BrianS

To be fair, you can't level that criticism at Robby and not do the same with Curtis. Because pre-TB5, they both had about the same catch %. Both of them jumped up in catch % this year. Someone is going to see that and overpay Curtis. Personally, I'd rather have a 6' 3" true outside receiver than a 5' 11" slot guy. I love Curtis and what he brings to the offense, but slot guys are not that hard to find. Our problem historically is that all we seem to find is slot guys. Then we try to push them outside and they fail. Rinse repeat.

What Watson wants is irrelevant. The Texans aren't going to give him away. He clearly has some unrealistic expectations.

I hope he goes in as a Panther, if he does go. While most of his on field exploits were with the Saints, I think it's safe to say he had a much larger impact here.

His fumbling history is no different than Russell Wilsons. Also bear in mind Carr's worst year with fumbles was the same year he was sacked FIFTY ONE times.

Dear OP: You like Mac Jones. We get it.

If Luck decides to unretire he still has three years left on his Colts contract.

I can't wait to hear the explanation of how 11 players will be off the board by pick 8.

False logic. The Falcons taking a QB has nothing to do with Matt Ryan coming back. He was always coming back. It has everything to do with the fact that Matt Ryan is 36. It has everything to do with the quality of the QB class and where they are picking within that class. There is no scenario where we draft at eight and less than four QB's are off the board before we do.

No, this is incorrect. That's the knock that some folks have for Carr, but you need to watch his eyes when he plays. His eyes are downfield, sometimes for a little too long. His first read is always downfield. If anything, I think he's sometimes a little late getting to the checkdown. Not that he doesn't take it, but it's definitely not his preferred choice. FWIW - Carr had a higher intended air yards per attempt than Aaron Rodgers, Kyler Murray and Big Ben (as well as 18 other QB's).

Carr would be a MUCH better contract for us that TB5. Nothing in there guaranteed assuming he comes over in trade. If he comes here and lights it up, you've found a guy who can give you another 5-7 years. Plenty of time for a SB run. If he is terrible, you can cut him easily.

Just the opposite. He takes his team downfield and scores. Five times last year. He had a sixth time pissed away after he put his team ahead of the Chiefs with 1:45 to go and the defense couldn't get a stop.

Because if you HAD watched Carr play you wouldn't be making crazy statements about what he can and can't do. He's a lot more than another "cool arm". He's a good QB. So is Stafford, I just think the price was too high on him. Oh, and you want a winner? Like someone who can take his team downfield at the end of the fourth and score? Like Carr did against the Chiefs? Or like he did FIVE TIMES last year? Stop blaming Carr for the ineptitude of his franchise and watch him play. It's like the people who were blaming Tannehill for the Dolphins failures. He goes to the Titans and "suddenly" he looks like a franchise QB? No. He always was that. He's gotten better every single year. JUST LIKE CARR. Tannehill went from a Dolphins castoff to a Titans hero with 33 TD / 7 INT / 6 game winning drives.

"Another QB with a cool arm" . . . in the Rhule era? Who? There are only two Rhule era QB's - TB5 and PJ Walker. Neither of them has anything resembling a good arm. "I don't get it" . . . well, that's because you haven't watched him. Go watch him. I linked the Raiders / Chiefs game earlier in the thread. He's about the furthest thing from TB5 you could possibly find. He mobile, makes good decisions, pushes the ball when he can and keeps his eyes downfield until the last possible moment. Watch him play, don't form an opinion based on what others tell you.

If you can get Carr with an exchange of first rounders plus a third, maybe you're still in position to draft Pitts? I dunno, 17th is pretty far down, it's not a question of the talent, Pitts is great, it's a question of position value for a TE. Still, if you could get Carr and Pitts added to our existing offense you'd have something scary there. The only question I have about Pitts is "Can he actually block?"

I agree, but our Kelce / Waller is our RB. At least in this iteration of our offense.

First of all . . . consider the source. Second of all . . . if you were the Panthers and you WERE interested, is it really in your best interests to announce it to the world?

I dunno man, check out the Chiefs game below. Carr took his team down to take the lead with less than two minutes to go and the Raiders couldn't hang on. He was definitely looking downfield first the whole game. I know, it's just one game, but it's pretty representative.

He's not elite at present, but his stats man . . . can you imagine what they'd look like if he was throwing to Moore, Anderson and CMC? He's got the arm. He takes good care of the ball, but isn't scared to push it downfield. Mobile. And that clutch factor. He had nine opportunities to win a game for his team. He did it five times. All I'm saying is that if our QB had that record this past season, we would have been 10-6.

I would 100% ok with Derek Carr. Look at this: All the guy has done since entering the league is get better and better and better. 27 TD, 9 INT's, 4100 yards last year. Almost 8 yards per attempt. YES PLEASE. He's relatively young, with another 5-7 years of prime football in him unless he gets abused. Oh, and there's this: Five game winning drives last year. Hi there clutch QB.

Agree. And I suspect that an offensive coach of Andy Reid's caliber will know that, plan for it and fix it.

Wait, wut? Our coach got our players to play to the end this season. You know, the actual NFL players on our roster. Those guys CLEARLY fought their (*@#es off for him. Our record does not reflect the effort our team produced. It reflects the lack of talent we have. Our team purged a LOT of dead wood last offseason. ON PURPOSE. Further, we'll do more house cleaning this year. When you look at the roster right now, look at our projected position in 2022. We are SUPER clean by then. We're going in the right direction. Matt Rhule may well flame out. It happens. However, he's going to leave us in a better position than we were in when he came here. That much is obvious already.

So, let me get this straight. The OP quotes our coach who was speaking about getting a QB who can make clutch plays in critical situations . . . then goes "This is why we need Mac Jones." Seriously? The one QB in college football who NEVER had to make a clutch play? Who never played from behind. Who was never in a one score game in the fourth quarter? The guy who only started in 2019 because Tua got broken? That guy? Ooooook. Thank goodness we have a GM.

What is there to hate about Remmers? The guy has done nothing but be an average starter in the league. If you want to blame someone for the 2015 SB, blame the coaching staff who watched for sixty minutes as an All-Pro caliber player was playing out of his mind and abusing our tackle without making a single adjustment. I hope Remmers gets his ring. He'd have had one already if our coaches could have pulled their heads out of the sand long enough to fix a problem.

Do not sleep on Trask. I actually don't think he makes it out of the first round. If Elway were still the GM in Denver I wouldn't expect him to get past Denver. Heck, Elway is still the President or something, I would not be AT ALL surprised to see them grab Trask. All those things Mac Jones hasn't shown? Yea, Trask has shown them. Big NFL arm. Timing and placement. Good lower body mechanics. Lesser talent around him, ugly pockets, coming from behind and he still got it done. Oh, and excellent locker room and leadership. I know most folks don't see it, but the guy is a first rounder. The only thing Trask doesn't do well is run. He slides and climbs well, but doesn't run well.

Took me a while, but here it is, from the CBA: