BrianS

No. Most of those guys had solid mechanics right from the start. Cleats in the ground, lined up, weight transfer. Favre was the most questionable, but he had probably the best arm in NFL history and even with that, he knew how to line up his body with the throw. Those guys didn't need to be "fixed". They did need some time to figure it out mentally.

Mahomes does do some crazy crap with his feet at times, but he has an otherworldly arm that can often overcome sketchy mechanics. On the flip side, there are also a lot of times where Mahomes does set his feet and throw with excellent mechanics. Cam had that in common with Mahomes. It wasn't until Cam's shoulder started giving out and Norv started coaching him that he finally started to improve. The truth is I can't really think of any QB's who came in with a weak arm and sketchy mechanics who overcame it. Height wise, Doug Flutie is the best comp. Unfortunately for the comparison, Doug Flutie had excellent mechanics and it allowed him to throw with pretty good velocity.

When I heard that I went "Oh, that's why".

This is a reasonable concern, but Evero's contract is with the team. The only way he can leave is if he is offered a HC gig elsewhere or is told his services are no longer required. If the new staff want him back, it's 100% in his best interests to come back and do his very best. If the defense doesn't make strides in year two, it starts to make his star a little less bright.

No, no. That only holds up if Bryce also gets a top 5 OLine, a 1000 yard RB, 2 receivers who can get 3+ yards of separation and a defense that gives him a short field a few times per game.

Unless Canales has a really good plan for that side of the ball, I could get behind this. I am not among those who thought Evero's defense was good last year. However, I also acknowledge he had a lot stacked against him as well. I'd like to see what he can do in year two. If he succeeds, great, we've got a great DC or we get a pick when he becomes a HC. If he fails, also fine, it's easy to get rid of him after 2024.

Having a coach willing to stand up to Tepper is probably the best thing that could possibly happen to us.

Maybe one day we'll have an owner like that. Dream big Panther nation.

This feels so much like "The answer is on the roster", front office version. I can't see it as a good thing when the guy we hire was already in the building for the objectively worst organization in the league. He was involved in building the worst team in the league. Let that sink in. We *earned* the number one pick a year after we gave up a bank to grab it from the Bears. And what was Morgan's role? Pro player evaluation. Who has he given us? Miles Sanders. DJ Chark. Austin Corbett. Xavier Woods. Adam Theilen. Hayden Hurst. It hasn't been great. He's the guy now. I'll root for him to succeed. I want him to succeed. I have serious, well founded doubts that he will. I am very concerned we're going to be cleaning house AGAIN after the 2024 season.

To be fair, Hurney was an excellent talent evaluator . . . . in the first round.

Agree. It was a texbook no risk move to skip the 5th year. If he's great, you pay him $40 million a year with a silly grin on your face knowing how many draft picks you just saved.

There's a Draft Day quote in there somewhere, I'm sure of it.

Ask Jalen Hurts or Eagles fans how important the OC is. All it took was Steichen moving to Indy where he made Gardner Minshew look like borderline starter instead of a good backup. Now, we hire a "defensive" HC who manages to find a great OC. Is that what we want? Our offense to go off a cliff after a year or two? We haven't yet seen what the result of Slowik leaving Houston might be, but it would be quite an accomplishment for the Texans to maintain their level of efficiency after losing him. That's why "Young OC" is the hot hire. Defensive coaching pieces can be changed out and recycled much more easily than innovative offensive minds.

I think you are mistaking hating for realism. A hater would say that he hopes Bryce never succeeds. I guarantee you that you will not find many - if any - people like that on this board. We all *hope* Bryce succeeds. It would change the complexion of the franchise. However, what myself and many others will do is continue to point out the signs that say Bryce is not getting it. Here's a picture. Compared to That's Zach Wilson, Mitch Trubisky and Dwayne Haskins. All relatively recent first round QB's. All flops. The similarities look scary to me.

I don't think they let him leave the building unless they got a very strong sense that Harbaugh would be interested.

Which should be a HUGE concern for us. WTF has the second overall pick, so a QB is definitely on the cards there. The Chargers have Justin freaking Herbert. If I'm an offensive coach, those situations look a lot more attractive to me.

Not so sure that's a complete assessment. It's much more fair to say Belichick hasn't looked as good without his offensive coordinator. Mac Jones was a Pro Bowl QB running Josh McDaniels system, and now he looks like a bust. He's also been the GM up there, and wrecked the roster. In Atlanta, they have a GM who has done a pretty good job of building a roster. Effectively, the weaknesses that caused the downturn in Foxboro have been largely accounted for in Atlanta. I am not excited about having him in our division, with McDaniels and that set of skill players. If Atlanta winds up with a QB, it's going to suck for us.

Shanahan, Andy Reid, John Harbaugh . . . in that order.

Putting turf in BoA really was inexcusable. In the top soccer leagues in the world, turf isn't even allowed. And do the two or three concerts per year REALLY put that much stress on the field? Seriously? We had a field that most of the players in the league thought quite highly of, and now we have . . . turf.

So the Falcons - a divisional rival - have interviewed: Baltimore Ravens Defensive Coordinator Mike Macdonald Cincinnati Bengals Offensive Coordinator Brian Callahan San Francisco 49ers Defensive Coordinator Steve Wilks Carolina Panthers Defensive Coordinator Ejiro Evero Baltimore Ravens Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Line Coach Anthony Weaver Former New England Patriots Head Coach Bill Belichick University of Michigan Head Coach Jim Harbaugh Meanwhile, we have interviewed: HC Chris Tabor DC Ejiro Evero Ravens OC Todd Monken Ravens DC Mike Macdonald What the actual (*@$ are we doing? Our HC has been gone since mid-season. The Falcons started their search less than two weeks ago. We don't even want to have a conversation with Harbaugh or Belichick? I'm truly baffled. Every time you think we've hit rock bottom, along comes Tupperware with his pickaxe and chisels us down another few feet.

I don't disagree with this, but that's what four and seven year contracts are supposed to do. How has that worked out so far with Tupperware as our owner? We are in an awful position. I hope we can get a good coach, but I don't expect it.

I actually didn't mind Teddy. Our mistake was that we somehow convinced ourselves that all we needed was a better QB. TB5 was good enough to get us to the guy, but we decided to start swinging for the fences instead of playing the long game. And here we are.

If our team was even competitive - not great, just competitive - he would easily have been first team. He was a (*@$ monster.

I don't disagree. I do find it curious how many times we chose to go for it on 4th and XX when we employ one of the best punters in the league. The fact we gave up so few yards and so many points sort of indicate that we didn't really play our cards right a lot of the time. Still, our red zone defense was not good either. We were 27th in RZ defense, giving up scores 63% of the time. As I said, I'm not "Evero Out" . . . I think he deserves a chance to show us what he can do. However, I'm also not one who thinks we should be talking about a guy with two total years of coordinator experience as our next head coach either.

NO THEY WEREN'T. Our defense was bottom five in the one category that matters: Points Allowed. Great, they were fourth in yards allowed. How many games did we win because we didn't allow many yards? Oh, that's right. NONE. Had our defense been ACTUAL top 5 - allowing 18 ppg - we would have won an additional 5 games and tied another. We'd have been 7-9-1. You know, competitive. As I've said elsewhere, I don't lay all the blame at Evero's feet. There were plenty of circumstances which led to a poor defensive performance. I'd be happy for him to be our DC next season to see if he really can build something. As far as "what more does he have to prove" . . . that's easy. I'd like to see him build and maintain a top 10 defense for 3 years. As a defensive coordinator, Evero has *never* led a top 10 defense. That'd be a nice start