BrianS

Well, in fact, they haven't. That 18 million can't be paid until next year. We've committed to pay it, which is in fact exactly what I said. But our cost for QB's in the 2020 and 2021 seasons is NOT 60 million, which is what King said. Our cost for the three seasons starting 2020 until 2022 will be 60 million plus whatever we pay for our starter next year. The way King is stating it is the equivalent to saying that we've paid $350 million for our team this year. That's not even remotely true. Yes, we've committed to spend 169 million next year. But you can't add that to our number for this year. It's dumb, and wrong. Committed spending for next year doesn't count this year, and the only way you can come to that $60 million King wants to troll out there is by adding committed spending from next year.

CMC was excellent, but to me this was even more encouraging: He only played 60% of the snaps. That's a MUCH more sustainable level. If we can maintain that, I look forward to watching him make defenders look silly for years to come.

Also, you've got a guy with a TREMENDOUS amount of coaching experience on the defensive side of the ball as well. Phil Snow started coaching defense at the high school level in 1976. He was Boise State's DC in 1983. Think about that for a minute. Bottom line is that Snow has seen so much, that his evaluations probably mean more. We already know Rhule trusts Snow implicitly. Joe Brady? I dunno, he may be bright and a good play designer, but he just doesn't have the experience. That's all I can come up with.

I dunno man, it looked more like the Bucs beat the Bucs and the WTF's just happened to be on the field while it happened. I don't think it will be "easy", but our defense is on a different level.

You're over-thinking the Rivera angle. The questions you should be asking are these: "Is there anything PJ Walker can do that Cam cannot?" and "Is there anything PJ Walker does better than Cam?" If you answer "No" to both those questions, Cam starts. Period. IF we start Cam, it should have nothing to do with Ron Rivera being on the other sideline. Lest we forget, most of what Ron knows about Cam is based on Mike Shula's "offense". This is a Joe Brady offense. It is up to Joe Brady to call a game that works to break those trends that Rivera may or may not know or expect.

If by "sucks" you mean he was our highest graded pass blocker, you're right.

To be fair, that holding call was horsecrap. I don't think Daley played all that well, but that holding was just terrible. Letting the bad call push you to false start on the next play however is not being mentally tough.

We can't. Simple as that. Yes, we're going to have some cap room this offseason, but we need it elsewhere. DJ is gonna get 15 easily. Donte will probably get 10. Reddick will get 10-15. Gilmore will get get 10-15. Best guess at our cap space right now is around 40 million. We already can't afford all those guys, and we need to spend on our OLine. They were "better" this week, but we have to invest there going forward. AND we still don't have a starting QB on our 2022 roster.

I'm not sure how you look at our QB room and come to any conclusion other than "Cam Newton is the best QB currently on our roster". That's all you really need to know. You brought in a guy who was better than what you had.

Pass blocking was way better for Jordan.

They are baked because we haven't spent 60 million yet. We've spent 42 million. We are committed to spend 18 next year. He's trying to say we've spent 60 million over two years. We haven't. We've spent or committed to spend 60 million over three years. We're going to spend more yet since our starter for next year is not going to be Darnold. I just don't like when people say things that aren't true to generate buzz.

BC got some 4th quarter snaps at LT.

The NFL rules say: "In the event of an injury to a team captain requiring them to miss one or more games during the season, a replacement may be named." This would be the "in" for Cam. With both Paradis and Darnold injured, they could choose to name Newton a captain. The interesting question is whether his prior years would count toward his gold patch.

We can't afford to tag Reddick. We have other people we need to sign. I would love for us to sign him, but the question is does he want to stay. He'll have to take less than market value. Our biggest outlay this offseason is going to be QB. Could be Newton or Watson or someone we haven't even thought of.

King had a lot to say, but he baked those numbers to be pretty misleading. Between TB5 and Darnold, our 2020 and 2021 outlay at QB is actually 42 million, or 21 per season. If he wanted to make a point, he should have said we've already committed 18 million next year to a guy who won't start (Darnold). King isn't much of a Cam fan. That's fine. It's a legit perspective. Cam hasn't had a fully healthy season since 2015. He's not ever going to be 2015 again. He hasn't looked good in a long, long time. That doesn't in any way invalidate the fact that Cam is likely the best QB on our team right now. It doesn't mean he can't be a successful starter. If we can just coach him without being afraid of him, I think it's possible Cam can give us a few years as a good starter, but an even better motivator and leader. It all depends on his health.

Dear Panthers - Do not rush this man back. I want him right for the next four years, instead of four games at the end of this season. He looks like the real deal, and we could definitely use some of that.

Could be a number of things, but if you're expecting 2015 Cam back you're going to be sad. In looking at Cam's tape from last year, he can still get you the 40-50 yard ball if he can set and throw. But he can't make the 60 yard falling backwards pinpoint bomb. This is a different Cam physically. We need to care for him. We need to use him to his strengths and not overuse him.

Sam didn't dupe anyone. Everything he did was on tape. Teams simply thought they could coach him up and fix the mental side of his game, which is where he fails. Sam's not a good QB, but his problems are 100% mental. And honestly, that's where 95% of QB's fail in the NFL. I wish he had worked out, but he didn't. I don't feel sorry for him. His entire life is in front of him and he can do pretty much whatever he wants.

This. Exactly this. We played well. We looked like a team on the rise. But imagine taking Cam and JStew out of the 2015 team. We caught them at a really good moment for us, and a bad moment for them. We needed that win. We needed that energy. Now the challenge is to carry it forward and get better.

While I don't want to see us "force" Cam in ahead of schedule, let's not kid ourselves. PJ threw for 167 yards yesterday. It's not like he set the world on fire with his downfield prowess. Our running backs won that game. Not PJ Walker. So if you're saying Cam won't be able to figure out how to hand the ball off, I'm not on board. Bottom line however is that Rhule won't announce a starter. He'll make WTF prepare for both. That's just smart football.

Sample size is still too small. He kicked very well yesterday. No doubt. However, over his career, Zane has been Joey Slye. If he's going to turn into John Kasay, I'm here to see it, but he needs to continue to hit those <50 yard shots consistently to get there.

As well as Gilmore has played, I don't see how we keep him. He's going to want megabux next year. That's a problem since he is probably at the point where he's soon to be in decline. I would much rather see us keep a guy like Donte who isn't likely to be in decline in the next three years. Honestly, the entire secondary played well. This is a fact difficult to argue when the opposing team has less than 150 yards passing.

You won't win many games where your QB goes 22/29 for 167 yards. All PJ did was not lose that game. Our OLine, aside from Daley, looked competent. Similar to last week in fact. I'm not sure the game did anything for Brady. His situational play calling is still not convincing. We had more FG's than TD's today. Our kicker, in a shocking turn of events, kicked consistently well today. It shouldn't disguise the fact that when we got inside the opponent 35 yard line, our offense choked more than it scored TD's. I'm not saying we shouldn't be positive about the future, the team looked like a team trending in the right direction. What I am saying is that one game doesn't answer all the questions.

Agree. Our defense is looking good.

TD's in the third quarter? Going for two? What is this team?