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Just now, Shocker said:

I think Razor said they can’t only Jermey can do it

I mean if they got his contact info, a short text could go a long way. Such an easy change but would really help the community.

Please update the draft forum from 2023 to 2025, it’s long overdue quite literally two years. This is a really big offseason for us and many of us are excited to talk and discuss this upcoming draft.

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Legette is a 3rd WR at best(likely a 4th or 5th). Coker is basically a AT replacement. He isn't blowing the top off any defenses.

The closest thing we have to an elite WR is AT. 

I hear your point, but I think you’re misunderstanding my question I initially posted. WR is a need 100%, I agree Tmac is a great WR. I was asking the OP what he thought his role was with our offense, as I saw him post about Tmac before and assumed he knew more about him.

Just now, kungfoodude said:

Well we have no elite WR on the roster, so why would he not?

WR corps are like a basketball starting 5,  you need a balanced group. Coker, Leggette both are vertical receivers which is a role Tmac excells in. I love Tmac the prospect, and wouldn’t be mad at the pick but personally I think our assets would be better used on a smaller faster slot option later in the draft.

#1 We have a historically bad defense

#2 Colston Loveland will 100% not go top ten, like actually there is zero chance. His highest yardage season is 649, that does not translate to top 10.

#3 Tyler Warren is a much better TE prospect

3 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

As long as we are in position to draft Tmac we should be fine. We can go all defense the rest of the draft.

 

Instead of overpaying Higgins we can use that money on 2 possible starters on defense. Think smart Panthers.

I think Tmac is a stud as well, my only question is do you think he fits in with our WR corps/Bryce?  

For a draft class without a first round pick coming into the draft, very good results all around.

Leggette is having a fine rookie year, gonna put up a 500-600 yard 5td season. Typically, rookie WRs who pass the 500 yard threshold tend to succeed historically. Plus, he does have upside traits due to his athleticism. No doubt, he needs to work on his hands and especially work on catching away from his body. But, you definitely can see his ability to threaten the defense vertically. I think a lot of people made the comparison to Deebo Samuel coming out of the draft, but honestly especially the way we use him he reminds me more of a DK Metcalf mold. He’s a bit stiffer like DK, but he has the strength to beat press coverage and long speed and size to threaten vertically. Makes sense considering Canales experience with the Seahawks that he’s putting Leggette in a similar role. If he can seriously work on his hands I don’t see why he can’t at the very least be a very good #2 WR. Which is not bad value for the 32 pick whatsoever. Combine the fact that he is wholesome and hilarious and clearly loves the game. We need faces of the franchise and it’s clear to me that’s a role he will play going forward. I trust Canales here, he has a plethora of experience at WR. He was a long time WR coach prior to being a OC for the Bucs.

1 minute ago, electro's horse said:

lol wide open and still almost air mailed it

You gotta be the most insufferable person in the world, we’re winning a game and playing entertaining football. Yet, all you can do is sit here and complain.

Abdul Gets pressure freakishly fast, guy is special.

Comparison is the thief of joy, let’s just appreciate the growth we have seen with Bryce Young.

6 hours ago, blueandblackattack said:

Was looking at what players are getting mocked to us at the moment, and the most common one is Abdul Carter from Penn State. I know we still got 4 more games to determine where we actually draft, but doesn't hurt to get a jump on the top players.

Now to preface this, I read reports that the reason why he hasn't played edge until this season is because he and his father were both ADAMANT from day 1 that he was a stand up linebacker, no if's or buts about it.

So, what made him change his mind finally this season? Here's his answer:

Now, I know most people will probably say "gotta get that money, can't blame a guy for that", and I agree to an extent, but after watching a few interviews and his tape, he seems to be solely motivated by money, and if he was real about football and the craft of it, then he would've been team-first and been an edge this whole time imho. When he talks about football in other interviews, he is terrible at breaking down the game or his play at press conferences. He's so raw he could be turned into sashimi by the time he gets on the field.

I'm getting major Isaiah Simmons bust-vibes from him. But like I said, it's super early, but just wanted to see your thoughts on a player like this and that kinda mentality and headspace.

 

 

This is one of the most flawed arguments I’ve seen on this board. I hate to break it to you but every single player in the NFL is motivated by money, as is 99% of the world’s population. Also, please give some evidence to substantiate your claim that he is “terrible at breaking down the game”, very bold claim to make with zero evidence. It’s actually funny to hear people judge players abilities when they clearly haven’t even watched them play. A true junior putting up 10 sacks in the big ten is beyond impressive. He has started for PSU since his freshman year where he put up 6.5 sacks. While yes this is his first year playing more true DE, he has experience pass rushing and is definitely not a raw rusher. And to go along with your claim he is not a team first player, he has stated a multitude of times he will play wherever he is needed. And has spent a good portion of snaps this year dropping into coverage and playing LB, that assumption is just out of touch. We would be lucky to draft Carter with our first pick. Also, for all of you who claim Abdul is a horrible run defender you might be shocked to know he leads the entire big ten in TFLS with 19.5.Carter leads the Big Ten with 

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

He is "listed" at 6'3 252.   And we all know about how that works.  His Combine measurements will be worth watching 

That argument could be made about any prospect, I would be surprised if he came in under 250 for the combine.

“Carter's physical development has been worth watching this offseason. Strength coach Chuck Losey said there was "no process, no plan" for Carter adding weight. On the most recent Penn State roster update, Carter was up to 259 pounds after he was listed at 250 earlier in the spring”. He generally fluctuates between 259 and 252, during the season it is harder to maintain a higher weight.

11 minutes ago, trucpfan said:

That's all I've read and seen that he's a step ahead of where Micah P was at when he came into the league. And thats because they've trained together and he's been mentored by Micah with that info id want him with our early first pick that's a major impactful player.

As a hardcore Penn State fan, Abdul is a game wrecker. One of the fastest first steps you will see, the fact he is getting this type of production his first year at DE is insane. His potential in the league is off the charts.

6 hours ago, Basbear said:

carter is simply too small framed and doesn't have von Miller's talent to overlook it. 

 

 

6’3 259 is not small framed lmao

9 hours ago, chknwing said:

It might be me but I think there are better fits for Carolina in the middle of the 1st.  Tmac looks slow.  Carter looks lanky.  Kinda like to trade down and pic up Jalon Walker.

Carter is not lanky bro, saw him in person a bunch. He is a literal ball of muscle

20 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

I WANT him to throw the ball up to get PI calls instead of throwing it out of bounds lol. That's the whole point of not throwing it away when you have the option

He did throw the ball up multiple times?

2 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

He actually threw a couple balls he previously didn't, but still left some out with throw aways in the end zone and out of bounds on scrambles. He looked much better but still limits the playbook and that will never change just based on physics

Yeah those throw aways sucked, he should have just taken the sacks… man such a shame he threw the ball up and got a defensive PI call to tie the game in the bottom of the 4th. Man, Bryce finally learned to not force throws and yall are mad at him for it.

Evero can go…

2 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Evero isn't nearly as good as some around here think. Playing Chinn at FS was a giant red flag. Dude took over a good D and it regressed while here he hasn't built anything for the next guy worth trying to prop up or anything much to blow up either. He is a jag coach and little more.

I will never trust Evero after watching him pound the table and make the team draft DJ Johnson.

10 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He ain't singing another 1 year $4M deal. He needed to get out of here to show what he could do and he has. Now clue about the Commander's cap situation but they should lock him up.

I was stating what he signed this offseason not what he is worth going forward?

1 minute ago, Dave Gettleman's Shorts said:

instead they tried to reinvent the wheel and play him like he was Earl Thomas

they should have went the Thomas Davis route and bulked Chinn 10-15 pounds and convert him full time into a OLB, but obviously Chinn wouldn't work in Evero's 3-4

Could not agree more, he has the frame to add LB bulk. His biggest strength is playing near the LOS, great pursuit and closing speed. Man, it pains me that we let him go entering his prime, he signed a 1 year 4 mill contract. Ian Thomas, Shy Tuttle, Ashawn Robinson, Miles Sanders,  Josh Yijiam, etc so many over paid players and we don’t pay young talent.