Monty83

I understand why our staff would be good for AR, but for our team, I would want the highly accurate QB who can step right in an excel in his 5-yr rookie window with our staff (which will be hard to keep in place to begin with). Them having to build up a guy from scratch especially to help him become more accurate can be a long process even if it works. Give me the guy who is more prepared to step in immediately and produce.

If that is the case for our coaches, they need to trade back and pick up a first next year from someone. You either suck enough to get your QB or you pay up in draft capital. I’m fine with either, but my goodness…. Pick one and don’t be mediocre.

Getting Carr defeats the purpose of the staff we put together in my opinion. We invested in a staff that can build and develop a more polished QB quickly with a higher ceiling than Carr. One we can benefit from being on a rookie deal for 5 years. We built this staff for the Young/Stroud/Williams/Maye’s of the world. We just have to remain disciplined as we try to get one.

I hate Matt Rhule and his selection so much right now. Because we feel the need to rush this process now. We have zero patience. We have the staff we should’ve had before. Either go all-in and trade up for YOUR guy or trade out of 9 and do the same thing next year with two first rounders. DO NOT get a guy just because he was there.

He’s the one worth moving up for. If we can’t secure him, I’m all about thinking about 2024 and positioning ourselves for one of the top QBs there. But we absolutely should be looking to target the guys we want with our new coach and not just drafting whoever is there.

The positive with being a local guy with local connections to alot of the infrastructure of the team is that it definitely can shorten and mitigate alot of the risks with a first-year HC. It should be the primary basis for a hire, but it’s a huge advantage. He checks alot of boxes. I’m onboard.

Panthers draft capital if they made the Burns trade: 2023: 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4, 5 2024: 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 5, 6 2025: 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 7

IMO, having that many first rounders on rookie deals for 4-5 years enables you to build fairly cheaply and evaluate who you do want to actually pay and for how long. HUGE miss for the Panthers.

The issue isn’t trading away what would be a talented player, it’s paying a talented player a big contract on a timeline for us to not be good. I don’t mind paying someone with everything lined up, and draft picks are how you get lined up.

You’re going to hear a lot of people compare him to Justin Herbert. And like the good NFL QBs he can make plays with his feet and has a great arm, and like the GREAT NFL QBs, he doesn’t turn the ball over and knows how to move the chains with high accuracy on 3rd down. And yea, I’d give up the farm to get him in 2024, which includes skipping on a QB in 2023.

To be honest, our 2nd biggest need should be whatever our next coach says it is. We can try to take a 30,000 ft approach to the team and say, “we need this, and need that”, but no team is great at everything in football. You have to be excellent at certain things to mask your deficiencies in other areas. If that’s going heavy on offense as a PRIORITY, then so be it. Doesn’t mean we completely neglect other things, but trying to spread everything evenly based on need is a quick way to mediocrity.

I believe in tanking when you are changing EVERYTHING. Which includes the coach. We don’t have a winning culture and that culture won’t be set until AFTER we get the new coach, so it’s actually a perfect time to tank when you won’t have the same leadership there at the end of the year.

Better than being the 5th or 6th worst.

You hit the nail on the head in the middle with the lack of investment by front offices in OLs BECAUSE they feel the QB can run out if trouble. It contributes to those QB struggles.

I’m hoping today was a whole charade to get the league believing we want him at 6 to drive his stock up and get one of the tackles to drop to us. Pickett reminds me of the old kid in class who has all the answers to a test, not because he’s that great but he’s taken it 5 times. Hell, he’s practically closer to being able to run for President than he is taking the SATs. We don’t really gain anything if the whole world knows we want him. Hopefully a smokescreen.