UnluckyforSome

148 out of 187 posters voted for an expected improvement. Almost 80% thought there was some way he was going to get better. This is a sad thread.

Just now, TD alt said:

30+ million dollars says he'll never sell cars or insurance.

 

Same chance then of seeing a sports psychologist too.

I think he needs to start selling cars or insurance.

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

I disagree. We still wouldn't be a good team but we'd be moving the ball and scoring points. It'd probably look a lot like Cam's rookie season when we generally scored enough points to compete but the D would find a way to give up just a few more.

I tend to agree with you on this, but it's all just wishful thinking anyway. Bryce and CJ are not the same players, so there isn't a good reason to think their performances would be the same.

In regards to non-dollar cost and return on investment, absolutely. Imagine the sickening feeling if we were still under the old draft rules.

41 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Obviously another guy or two will pop up but as of right now outside of Manning there isn’t much QB wise in the 2026 class either. Arch isn’t coming here so. 

We really should’ve traded for Howell or even Wilson. Someone with an NFL arm that Canales at least run plays 10+ yards downfield for. 

Canales will have to pick his QB this offseason so that he gets a fair chance to prove whether or not he’s capable of being a HC 

Wilson is washed up. Howell would've at least been an arm, but it is probably for the best we didn't pursue. The heartbreak of him being on this team would be too much for some fans.

10 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

I actually wouldn't be surprised if they would be very against that.

Even with the great relationship Eli has with the franchise, I can't see them wanting to have to play in his Uncle's looming shadow while also dealing with the NYC media and fan base on top of it.  

The kid has enough pressure on him already, playing for the Giants, Colts, or Broncos would be very tough for him to do I think

So, I wonder when Carr's deal is up in NO? 

There has to be a player that generates the interest and justifies such a trade. Then the question is if they are so good, why shouldn't we pick them? The college season is still early. Someone might emerge. Right now it's all muddled.

8 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

I think everybody knows dalton isn't the answer. This isn't about winning right now/competing for a championship. This is about putting a serviceable qb on the field that helps give you a functional offense for the time being. Bryce isnt doing that, he isnt doing much of anything at all. He had 84 yds passing today. The top receiver had 23 yds. They are barely even involved in the game, this is unacceptable for 15 more games. If you think a change can fix that you gotta do it. It's easy to sit at home as a fan say this is okay because it's benefits in the end, but that just isn't how it works for everybody involved. You saw today players are starting to show frustration in the open and we are only 2 games in. I don't know how else to explain it to you unless you just continue to look at this only from a fan perspective. 

I think you misunderstand my opinion of Young, and the franchise as a whole.

There is nothing salvageable about this and it should've been torn down to floorboards and studs, when this rebuild was undertaken 4 coaches ago. The team shows the results of all those different philosophies and opinions and hands. There is no identity, no foundations, it's a collection of players, many of them would not be in the league other than the opportunity we have presented. Bring on the next set to turn us into a winner again. Spin the wheel of misfortune, Tepper.

But all said, you have some very fine points.

49 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Then by your own logic there is no point in playing Bryce.  If we can’t win either way but one QB would allow us to run a semi functional offense..

I think where we might be differing on this is trying to wrangle a few wins here and there. There is no good or better outcome on this season.

To your point, there is no reason to play Bryce. We know what we have with him. There's no reason to play Dalton. He is not the answer. I don't know, put in the udfa they had out there in preseason. It's a no-win scenario no matter how you look at it, but someone has to go out there and slog it out. Only 15 more to go!

13 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

There is not really any point in playing Bryce.

Sure there is. Top pick in the draft. I think any hope for wins is a bit much either way.

There is not really any point in playing Dalton. He isn't the future, and while he might make them a little more competitive, he isn't capable of turning this trainwreck around.

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I can't say whether it will happen, but I definitely believe it should.

Yes, but it will take a sea change to make that happen. While Tepper is certainly an overwhelming wrong here, he is not the only thing off with the franchise.

3 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

I dont know who in the hell you think we are going to beat? At this rate we are going to get blown out by every team on our schedule.

No defense can stand a chance with a team that doesnt get a first down until 4 minutes left in the 2nd quarter. Totally unacceptable, We all know that Bryce cant start at this level.  

I know it looks grim, but there will be 1 game on that schedule that the opponent is missing a key player, or they just didn't prepare enough, or the ball bounces the wrong way. Make no mistake, we are not better than any other team in the league.

I predicted 1 win. There's no panic here. He showed all last season he can't play at this level. 

Well, you know, with the way Bryce is able to pass the ball and distribute it around, we won't need superstar receivers.

In the Superbowl era, the record for the least amount of touchdowns in a season is 11 by the 1977 Bucs. That was in a 14 game season. This Panthers team can break that record, even with the 17 games. It is that bad.

Well. They won 2 last year. I have them winning 1 this year. Chances are good they will improve on that at some point in the future.

Just

End

The

Season

He threw a drink on a fan, and maybe got a sternly worded letter from the league office and a slap on the wrist. 

The problem with getting a ransom of picks for the top spot is there has to be a player perceived to be worth that haul. There are no sparkling names out there for qb at this time. Sure, it could change between now and then, but there isn't a game changer out there as of now.

The Rams-Lions game last night was a good watch. Panthers aren't worth watching. I don't find them funny. It's a miserable experience and has been that way for a good while now. I don't think I watched an entire Panthers game last season, and I was just fine.

33 minutes ago, OneBadCat said:

The scheme and the offensive line looked better. But it's clear the team just doesn't believe in Bryce. The defense especially. They saw that first pick and said, "yeah I'm not doing this poo again."

Can't say I blame them after being left on the field every game last year too. The next 2-3 games (3 if he gets another) are going to be crucial for Bryce to show something or he's done.

I recognize the fan in you doesn't want Young to be a failure. Quit extending him another 2 or 3 games to show something. He hasn't shown anything in a season+. Nothing, nada, nul, nunca. 

1 minute ago, Joe Bear said:

Couple months. By then, Clowney, Johnson, Thielen, Sanders, Shaq and Jaycee "Two Games" Horn will have been on IR for a while. That's how they're losing 98-0.

We may not have to wait even that long for the beatdown. Bengals are more than capable of running up the score.

43 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I honestly think an elite NFL offense could come close to hanging a Benjamin on us if they came in with that as their goal.

CJ Stroud and Anthony Richardson probably conclude their bedtime prayers by thanking god they didn't get drafted by Tepper's Panthers.

Chiefs coming up in a few weeks..