UnluckyforSome

2002 season. Combined 71-0 for the season. 30-0 at Atlanta, a month later 41-0 at home. Bad times.

That sounds about right. We were swept that year 77-0. When people want to talk about hated rivals, any other team, they have forgotten that embarrassment. That said, my vote was for the Bucs, for similar reasons mentioned already. I think that's when the bottom falls out.

It's good old fashioned hubris. Or arrogance, or a combination. I sort of think that at this point in his life he feels as though he's made billions on making clever and shrewd decisions, so he has a gut feel or an eye for making the right call. He missed this one though, badly, and maybe it's a shock to the system, or thinking he can't possibly be wrong in his judgement here nd it all just needs a little more time to come to together. Rhule isn't winning a Superbowl with this team, not this year, not next year, not ever. So what exactly is he here for then?

The problem with keeping him here is if the record is bad enough, I mean we are talking a couple of wins bad, less than his usual output of 5 wins, how in the world does Tepper sell keeping him to the fanbase? At that point not only is Rhule still here, so far over his head that he is drowning, what does that say about the ability of the organization to attract players, coaches, as well as how much does Tepper even care? It would be a PR disaster.

Rams are a good choice. They have enough on both sides of the ball to control the game the whole way. Maybe they play down to their competition though a bit? I just hope it's not Atlanta. Anyone but Atlanta. I mean they already owned us 1 season 77-0. No mas.

I felt 2 or 3 wins was the most likely outcome this season. Seattle, Atlanta, Pittsburgh or Detroit are the best chances for wins. Seattle, late in the season, at their place will be a bit difficult. Especially if the team has quit. Atlanta is not good either. It remains the best chance for a win I think. Pittsburgh in theory can run the ball. It will be interesting to see how the Pickett era might play out this year if he is indeed the starter going forward. I think that Detroit is a good bit better than us. Not sure we could keep up with them. Bucs and Saints remain possibilities. We may get a worthless win against the Bucs JV squad at the end of the season.

Arizona State would fit the role of underdog needing a turnaround to be competitive. That should be appealing to both sides. I would kind of wonder if ASU officials would be hesitant based on his current deal here. He would have to be available I would think. He needs to go back to college. He is not cut out for the NFL.

It's beyond time. But it could get worse. I mean we haven't started a qb signed right off the street earlier that week yet. Rhule hasn't become a gum-chomping, hand clapping buffoon on the sidelines yet. He hasn't talked about missed opportunities every presser. He hasn't told the media to go ask the personnel department yet. We can still go lower and lower.

That was the rumor of what halftime was in that last Fox year. Maybe we have gotten to that point again.

Why would the Saints give us the friends and family price for Payton? Instead they would bring out a barrel and ask us nicely to assume the position. The price for Gruden to Tampa was 2 firsts. That has to be the starting point you would think for any Payton deal. The Saints would absolutely love to cripple us in exchange for Payton. And no thanks on Quinn. Fine DC, but we saw enough of him in Atlanta and should be well aware of what he brings. I'd have to hope we could do better.

I think the oline is certainly not as dominant and overwhelming as previous editions. LT has taken a step down, and that's probably reflected in your statement about pass protection. The rookie went down in preseason and Hurst, if that is who ended up at the position, is not Armstead, but overall the line is still good and the interior is strong. You underestimate the ineptitude and toothlessness of our team at the moment. Thanks for being kind, but as the stat revealed last week, we are 1-25 when allowing a team 17 points. Most NFL teams can score more than 17 points.

Kamara not playing would be a disadvantage for the Saints. Winston's injuries are no an ideal situation either. Their defense is still very very stout, their oline is not shabby at all, and they still have Ingram in the backfield, Thomas waiting to catch 15 slants on 17 targets for something absurd like 150 yards. In other words they are still extremely capable of dinking and dunking and power running their way up and down the field to victory.

You might be right. I can't recall if it was 2 years since that was the balance of his contract. Either way, I don't like the idea of giving them 2 firsts if that's what the expectations are to get it done.

Gruden to Tampa is the only real comparison. Two first round picks. Not sure what, if anything else was involved, but the top of the deal was the first round picks. One was not good enough. Handing over that kind of capital, to a division rival no less, seems to be a very dumb move.

The team has no identity. The 1st Rhule year they tapped into a little of that scrappy underdog that would be difficult to deal with, and was not an easy win on the schedule. They showed some promise. It never came to fruition though, and now we are looking at a perennial loser that bumbles and stumbles though games. Unfortunately its time to face the facts, we are that perennial loser, working on 4 straight seasons of 5 wins or less, and that makes us the Jets of the NFC. So that can be our identity now. It fits.

Brandon Staley as well on that list I think. He has a roster capable of making noise in the playoffs and he just seems to do foolery most of the game.

It's hard to see them breaking out of their slump next week. Lattimore may be suspended which should be a plus. Winston has broken bones in his back but they played him anyway and he did Winston things with 3 interceptions in the 4th. It might be better for them if they start Dalton. Rhule might even be on equal ground, or close, with Dennis Allen. Our oline better bring the A-game and be ready for a rough time.

Unfortunately what any of us think doesn't matter a bit. It's going to be a difficult season, especially considering some the high hopes that were floating around. I know 1 guy on NFL networks morning show had us a playoff team. I don't see it myself, and didn't see it preseason, and don't see how this team turns that corner into being a winner. But that's just my 2 cents, and even that might be over-priced. Whatever it is..they don't got it.

As Rhule himself would probably be quick to point out, we didn't lose 25-3 this time to the Giants, and we managed to get some first downs too. There is some good improvement from last year that everyone should be able to see.

If we lose every game this year, which isn't likely even though the team as whole is terrible, I think that would have us on a 24 game losing streak. That gets us very very close to Tampa's 0-26 start.

Last 2 games of the season are on the road. NFL would prefer not to broadcast angry fans with bags on their heads instead of having fun and enjoying the game.

Love them of course. Doesn't mean I can't be critical, or that there are periods where I just have to put them to the side for a while. This will be the 4th consecutive season of 5 wins or less. I'm an adult male. I'm not cheering for that rubbish. I've always wondered how the Falcons have any fanbase at all. Seriously, if that represented a real relationship, every man or woman should have left already due to severe emotional abuse. We aren't at that level yet, but these losing seasons have to come to an end before we end up in that position.

How bad is it? You know it's bad when we collectively start looking back longingly for the heydays of Fox and Rivera. At least we have finally arrived at the magical year 3 of the Rhule administration.

2020. A surprise win over the most-hated Falcons made the team 3-2, 3 straight wins, what a pleasant surprise. I did not expect us to be good that season, but was very pleased at that point. The remainder of the season didn't bring anywhere near the same level of success, but I think many of us felt positive about the team and with so many close loses that next season potentially would be different. It was. It was worse.

I think I've been round a loooong time. But that's ok. Things happen. log-ins are lost, pw forgotten, etc.