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He's the pick if we stay at 8 and he is still on the board.

22 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

I'm not as down on XL as many of you are.  He got open alot and showed toughness.  He deserves another season before writing him off

Of course he does. I am very hopeful. I am hoping he doesn't lead the league in drops and talking funny.

Whether it has merit or not, doesn't matter. The Panthers are not drafting a tackle at #8. They will take the lazy do-nothing guy from Texas A+M before they take a tackle at 8.

We already have a replacement right tackle to take over for Moton. He is somewhat playing as the current left tackle.

15 hours ago, Basbear said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/nfl-takeaways-unlikely-shedeur-sanders-goes-to-browns-giants#_6a42oiyov

 

 

Update- more insight..... its fugly. It seems carr mainly came for Dennis Allen, then he was fired and the saints wanted to try to avoid paying the past can kicking one more year. They didn't ask Carr about if he wanted to stay, just did a new deal. Carr's shoulder flared up right after.

Seems they should have cut him, just a move that will haunt them for years.....just LOL

I am little shocked and not entirely convinced that any player would allow their career to be determined by Dennis Allen. He has little credibility and zero accomplishments in the NFL.

19 minutes ago, rebelrouser said:

I agree and he is certainly not ready to start right out of the gate, but people are talking about Milroe in the first round. That Saints' story is going to make teams that want a qb start to sweat. 

I watched every Ole Miss game this last year and i was never convinced Dart will be a productive starter in the NFL. Minshew might be a good comp.

He reminds me a little of Jake Locker. He does have some physical skills, and a little mobility. Locker I think made it a couple of years. I sort of expect the same from Dart.

1 hour ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Thats hilarious

Dart at 9 is ridiculous in my opinion. He was helped immensely by the Kiffen system. Seems like a bunch of the commenters do not expect him to make it past the 1st round though.

Saintsreport are convinced they are taking Dart at 9.

12 hours ago, raleigh-panther said:

In this scenario, a team wanting a QB becomes an opportunity to trade down if the opportunity is there and compensation good enough 

My justification is simple, I have seen several tier rankings of the DEs. After the top 2 or 3, well. The depth is good

If no trade back then and staying at 8 

1. Take BPA regardless of position and in this case OT trumps WRs…learn from Philly  build that line  and  Moton  isnt getting any younger 

2 or defense is the focus, the line would  be great but, best cornerback available, and CB trumps most other Def positions

let’s face it, Horn does have his history

….and i dont know about you all, but im sick of seeing Evans running through the secondary like Secretariat in the Belmont Stakes 

If it came right down to brass tacks and this was the scenario, I would prefer to go with the LT. Not only because I tend to agree that if you can build dominating lines, it allows the team to operate. I also think that it is a very Panthers thing to have a LT that has a weakness in pass blocking, but we just hope with all our being that he gets better. We could play him at a strength instead of tolerating a weakness.

This is the least likely thing to happen in the Panthers draft, and I would instead expect to say "Hello, Mykel!" 

19 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Well, apparently not everyone

Pretty sure there were some calls for us to take him first overall.

There are always a couple. But even they probably knew he wasn't ready to play day 1.

1 minute ago, SaltAndPepper said:

 

Assuming this is the way the draft goes and we can't trade down, who do we take at this point? 

If it goes like this, hopefully they are taking the other Georgia player, Mykel, Warren or the best pass blocking tackle.

8 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Speaking of quarterbacks...

Wondered If perhaps he also talked about Bryce but given the source I wouldn't necessarily bet on it.

Water is wet. Everyone knew he was not ready to play. It was entirely a gamble on potential.

You aren't going to ever get him out of the equation. As he has stated previously, he believes it his right to make the final call on decisions. 

The NFL knows that it is a guaranteed story if he isn't taken in the 1st, and sits there the entire time.

The NFL knows that it is a guaranteed story if he is taken in the 1st, and some desperate team for a QB takes the chance.

Steelers sure seem like a team that would just sit and wait and maybe that means Dart, or Sanders or 1 of the other guys. Can't see them making a trade like that. 

3 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

He's gonna be the pick at #8, so I guess we can start looking at #57.

I think he is the pick if he is there. Mayock also predicted that there would be no trade-ups into the top 10.

Mike Mayock was on Eisen's show this afternoon, and said Walker was a "plug and play presence at edge," and would be the pick at 8.

21 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

Reason? There's not 1 single player in this draft worth trading up for, including Carter. Is that enough for you?

Now now. We have to hold on to the dream that some idiot team, not us but some other idiot team, will be itching to trade up to 8 for a ransom in order to draft a player that could and should be our next big bust.

Skip ahead to the 5 minute mark, and then again to 6:50. It sure sounds like Walker is the pick if he there.

28 minutes ago, La Pantera said:

You hope Jeanty is there and the Cowboys or Bears want him. 

Or one of the QB needy teams make a move for Sanders or Dart.

a team in need of a OT could move up for Will Campbell.

I am not sure of where Sanders will go. I would be surprised if he is there at 8. 

Dart would be a Panthers/Browns/Jets level of stupid at 8.

A tackle at 8 I could see. Of course, a tackle would not be terrible choice for us. Move Ikey and his pass block deficient self to right after next year and put our 2nd year left tackle, that can hopefully pass block in his spot on the line.

1 minute ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

 

I will agree on that 1, but maybe not for a rb. There aren't too many teams these days that are looking to trade draft picks to move up for a rb.

Well. There are couple of teams though.

The problem with trading down is that it needs a team willing to pay some sort of premium to move up for a player they feel is worth the spend. If we are sitting at 8 and every player available is an unworthy garbage reach, what team is dumb enough to move up? 

What wr prospect is big, not too fast, can't catch and has an injury? That has Panthers draft pick all over it.

Defense. We are so deficient on that side of the ball. You have a strong defense, you can muddle up games and grind things out and punch above your weight class a little bit. I am fine with Walker or Graham. If it is offense, Warren or a tackle. 

8 minutes ago, Pejorative Miscreant said:

What’s Bersin up to these days?

He has had to expand his lawn mowing business now that Richardson has passed on.