UnluckyforSome

15 minutes ago, d-dave said:

That's pretty cool.  I don't care about the garbage versus not-garbage time non-sense.  You play what you have to play, and everyone has garbage time one way or another.

After all, if you don't win before the game starts, then are you really a winner?  Isn't it all garbage time anyway?  (Sarcasm with a capital S)

Well, to some extent. Some people believe Stafford is a shoe-in for the HOF. Alternatively, some folks think he is a very skilled stat compiler.

I guess there is a difference in some minds about the circumstances and perspective.

1 minute ago, Basbear said:

Success rate???

f - PP0mm^Gee (g+Ur_)Julie / wCm*.Rc x^4.20 - Brrr%= success rate

I found the formula 

Right. I am curious if it includes big time throws in either formulation.

Not really any point in arguing back and forth about it, other than for the sake of arguing. If you believe in him, you believe in him.

I don't. I point to his W-L record. I point to how awful he plays. I point to how he crow-hops around (as another poster put it a while back) in the pocket. I point to how success is so incredibly rarely ever seen at that size in the NFL, at any position. That it's year 3, and there are still "questions" just seems ridiculous. I don't hate him. He has the weight of all the expectations of the organization and fans on his shoulders and just he isn't cut out for it. 9 wins total, in year 3 is just not it, and none of the excuses are going to hold water on that mark.

Not sure of the contract, but unless this is Taylor's final contract year, I would be surprised if Cincinnati moves on, just to avoid paying out money to a coach no longer there.

I think trap game only applies to a good team facing an inferior opponent.

52 minutes ago, BEASTfromdaEAST said:

Where do you draw line top3 or top 5 money then?

I wish he goes for a "hometown" deal and doesn't try and reset market but it's going to be tough to argue not paying him BIG MONEY if he continues do be a stabilizing force on the left side of line.

DM got some tough decisions to make at the OT position coming up. 

 

Absolutely, and I would hope that someone smarter than me is making that ultimate decision.

He has been better than ok, despite the shortcomings. Top half of the league, top 20ish. The unfortunate trend is every off-season seems to feature the next highest-paid player at their position.

If I had to go on a hunch, we will pay him what he wants, because of everything that doesn't equate to his performance on the field. I don't think I would lose sleep over it, again it's not my money or choice, but he isn't worth that kind of deal.

The problem with giving him a big payday is that he probably will always be lesser than his peers in pass protection. He has improved in that area somewhat, but enough to reset the left tackle market? Not my money, I don't really care, but I am not so sure he should command that amount.

Find it in the draft. Really the only method. There is such a premium on the position that what's available and affordable on the market is either over-the-hill hasbeens, never-weres, and flawed prospects. 

I don't think you can count on 9 wins getting you in anyway, unless a team wins a division with 9 wins. Bengals won 9 games last season and did not make it. Seahawks won 10 and did not make it. Too many better teams ahead.

I mean, they could run the table. Not probable, but possible. 

2 hours ago, App Panther said:

Sounds like no Garrett Wilson next week…

He's a no-go.

Fields can run around and make things happen. Of course, those things are not always good things. My hope is we get the 9 sacks, -10 yards passing version of Fields, and not the 1 that rushed for 1000 yards as a qb.

56 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

I’m not a huge fan of the matte black would prefer the regular helmet gloss look. Also I think it needs silver pin striping along the blue stripes to match the rest of our uniforms and silver helmet.

That is kind of my problem as well. They look very unfinished, as if the intent was just to get something made up so they could say there is an alternate helmet. It is a little reminiscent in that way of teams that make up a black alternate uniform because it's black.

I don't care for the black helmets. I do like the results though.

2 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

The idea we could have a winning record heading into week 8 would be a pleasant situation to find ourselves in considering the past 8 years of Panthers football.  

It would be very Panthers to go up there and get absolutely boat raced and provide them with their 1st win.

20 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

There is nothing as sweet to me as sending those  freakin  Cowboy fans quietly out of charlotte 

Agreed, but honestly and unfortunately, I would guess most of those fans weren't traveling from Texas, but from right around the corner and down the street.

At the very least, at the absolute minimum, he hasn't been a waste of payroll like a former te was for his too-long tenure here.

Jerruh was just eager to get over to the glory hole.

I actually don't think the team is terrible outside of Young. Not good by any means, but not bottom of the NFL bad either. Young, however, pulls them down to that level. It is unfortunate there is no one on the roster as a viable alternative to Young.

bUt BrYcE dOeSn'T hAvE aNy WeAPoNs.

He's dead man walking at this point.

Lol. fuging clown show.

I think we see the offense with a 3 and out this series. Young is showing improvement.