UnluckyforSome

Don't worry true believers! Even if the Panthers lose this game, they can still win the division at 7-10.

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5 minutes ago, SaltAndPepper said:

He can at least draft...

...better than Tepper. Not well enough to be a real contender though. Of course, we are in such a terrible an awful state that just about anything would be an improvement.

Unfortunately, I don't think it matters how much ink is spilled telling this story about Tepper's meddlesome ways. As an example of such, the Cowboy's GM remains employed despite season after season after season of futility and disappointment. 

Steeler at Bengals on here. I'm not expecting much from a Burrow-less Bengals team though.

20 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

No way in hell they cut him. We should be all over that poo, but no way in hell that happens. You have a 5th round rookie leading the league in passing yards and you think a team would cut that?

New coach means new qb. They all want their guy. As stated in the post, I don't know what they would ask for him. What trade value do you think is there? Maybe they showcase him in the preseason, maybe they bench him at the bye for the replacement. Out with the old though.

1 minute ago, djp14 said:

The time to get Howell was when we still had DJ Moore and CMC. 

I don't disagree, but it doesn't change that he does have some potential, and he will be available.

1 minute ago, AceBoogie said:

Nah. I’ve never been high on Howell, but he deserves some time. 

I would tend to agree. There are probably a few fans here and there that are hoping to have a told-you-so moment, and that chance may certainly come around soon.

Howell will be available next season when they have a new coach. Don't know that they would want, or if he just is a cut, but he'll be available.

Henry probably goes for about 300 on a dozen carries, sparking mvp talk again for a week.

The mascot is a black cat. Don't know why some people continue to not believe.

A rare MNF game with 2 really good teams. Usually it features some sad sack doormat team that no one cares about. Maybe the Panthers can get a couple of those spots over the next year or two.

2 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

Hurney picked all pros in the draft, he is way way better than Fitterer. He likely would have taken Parsons over Horn. Fitterer is somehow worse than Gettleman, who ruined two franchises 

Smarty Marty would've 100% taken Parsons over Horn. 

Rhule was in over his head from the start. He was a college coach that should've stayed at the college level. He didn't hire himself though, so the real fault belongs with someone else.

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

If we had just kept Ron and Marty we'd be significantly better off than we are now.

Let that sink in. That's how poorly Tepper's leadership has been

Completely pathetic, and completely true. It's a poo state of affairs. Tepper did a bangup job putting his stamp on the team.

It won't take 5 years. Not if you have the right people in place. Now, next year is going to be bad, but maybe not as bad as this year. 

I agree about restructuring the operations, and Tepper needs to sign checks and be a cheerleader. I think our scouting department has become very inconsistent. I don't think we do well developing players. I don't think we have had an identity since Cam, Luke and the others from the last run left the game. Establishing those things again will not be overnight. 

But getting back to being competitive will not be a 5 year plan, if the right choices are made. I have no confidence that can happen though. 

There will always be candidates. There are only 32 of these jobs in the world. Don't under estimate the drive and egos of some folks that think they can be the 1 to turn something around. Regarding Young, we aren't on the hook for a fortune to him, so there is no obligation to keep him if/when there is a change at the top.

You can still be a fan of the game and follow the sport without supporting the garbage that is put on the field by this franchise, with the expectation that we will like it no matter what because we don't know any better. I mean we didn't even know what live music was until a few years ago. 

If you have the means travel to other games, see other stadiums, see what other game day experiences are like, and then see how it compares. I'll give you a hint..it doesn't. I haven't been to the new Falcons stadium yet, but the old Georgia Dome was a good experience. Our other rivals are worth a trip, and Jacksonville and Nashville aren't very far away either.

Leaf and Russell are the 2 big ones. Gabbert has a Superbowl ring with Tampa I believe.

1 minute ago, rayzor said:

Lions and the phins seen the most interesting to me. Texans are a heart breaker because I was just so sure we were going to be in a better position and an overall better team and they got the right QB. It just hurts.

I like the Dolphins chances this season. I think they need to win the East though, and avoid going somewhere cold and snowy and miserable in January. Those high-powered offenses have always seemed to freeze up a bit in winter weather.

Browns or Lions. If the Browns can do something without Watson, its an even better story.

Browns about to win. It's inspiring now as a Panthers fan to see a doormat finally become better than average.

Sounds pretty awful. Steelers-Browns is 10-10 with about 5 minutes left.

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

That’s why I think fitt and Reich are back next year.  

I tend to agree. However, something to consider, how do you sell a record new low, a 1-17 season, and 6 straight losing seasons, and justify bringing him back after that? 

New coach almost always means new qb. Maybe not immediately and right off the bat, but no coach is shackling their job security to a qb they didn't select. 

2 receptions for 11 yards will be hell to replace.