UnluckyforSome

Blue lobster.

If Young has any trade value at all, and that is a big if, a 7th round pick would be a reasonable expectation. Teams will hold on to better back-up qbs just because of the value of having a capable starter on emergency standby. Promote Plummer and hope he never has to play. It keeps Young from getting back on the field.

He should've been made 3rd string, and immediately someone else brought in for 2nd or promote Plummer. Now we are in a situation where if/when Dalton is injured for any amount of time, Bryce is back.

Well the book on Tepper to this point is he is impatient, unreasonable and doesn't know what he is doing. So, you kind of have to put benching the #1 overall pick from the previous season into that context. Not saying it is right or wrong, just that is the reality of framework right now.

Well it is of course incorrect, and lazy, but that's to be expected when the perception is out there that the team has to sell tickets for pocket change, the owner fires coaches on whims, and throws drinks on fans.

Essentially they went back to his Alabama highlights, and how could he be so bad now??? Nevermind that he physically cannot hack it at this level.

Just to say, there is a very strong counter narrative out there that the Panthers completely failed Young and he was never going to be successful here with this trainwreck of a franchise. I heard the same story on 2 national sports talk radio shows this early morning on the drive in to work.

Knowing how this franchise has operated recently, we will take a punter first overall if his RAS scores hit some marks.

The wheels kind of came off towards the end of the season last year from what I recall. They couldn't stop anyone.

Philly looks very meh. They probably still win the East, but I don't think they are a Superbowl contender.

I don't get the reliance on analytics.

Atlanta looking like they are already tired of tackling Barkley.

But it's against the Falcons. All is forgiven then.

148 out of 187 posters voted for an expected improvement. Almost 80% thought there was some way he was going to get better. This is a sad thread.

Same chance then of seeing a sports psychologist too.

I think he needs to start selling cars or insurance.

I tend to agree with you on this, but it's all just wishful thinking anyway. Bryce and CJ are not the same players, so there isn't a good reason to think their performances would be the same.

In regards to non-dollar cost and return on investment, absolutely. Imagine the sickening feeling if we were still under the old draft rules.

Wilson is washed up. Howell would've at least been an arm, but it is probably for the best we didn't pursue. The heartbreak of him being on this team would be too much for some fans.

So, I wonder when Carr's deal is up in NO?

There has to be a player that generates the interest and justifies such a trade. Then the question is if they are so good, why shouldn't we pick them? The college season is still early. Someone might emerge. Right now it's all muddled.

I think you misunderstand my opinion of Young, and the franchise as a whole. There is nothing salvageable about this and it should've been torn down to floorboards and studs, when this rebuild was undertaken 4 coaches ago. The team shows the results of all those different philosophies and opinions and hands. There is no identity, no foundations, it's a collection of players, many of them would not be in the league other than the opportunity we have presented. Bring on the next set to turn us into a winner again. Spin the wheel of misfortune, Tepper. But all said, you have some very fine points.

I think where we might be differing on this is trying to wrangle a few wins here and there. There is no good or better outcome on this season. To your point, there is no reason to play Bryce. We know what we have with him. There's no reason to play Dalton. He is not the answer. I don't know, put in the udfa they had out there in preseason. It's a no-win scenario no matter how you look at it, but someone has to go out there and slog it out. Only 15 more to go!

Sure there is. Top pick in the draft. I think any hope for wins is a bit much either way.

There is not really any point in playing Dalton. He isn't the future, and while he might make them a little more competitive, he isn't capable of turning this trainwreck around.