UnluckyforSome

https://operations.nfl.com/updates/the-game/nfl-reinvents-pro-bowl-starting-in-2023/ Ok, for those interested, the Pro Bowl has been renamed to the Pro Bowl Games. There is a flag football game, and the website only describes a week-long celebration with fun skills competitions but does not mention what those may in fact be. At 1 point I had heard that there would be a players Madden tournament, but maybe that is not included in the official slate of Pro Bowl Games week.

If he plays next year, and that's a big if, it won't be on the Bucs. Niners or Dolphins maybe.

Yes and the players are still rewarded with bonus money but I don't know if there is a percentage of that based on winning match ups and tournaments. It was time for it to go. It was no longer entertaining, especially when a high number of selections would opt out.

I think the Pro Bowl is gone now. It's supposed to be a fun skills competition and Madden tournament between the players. Maybe if we have any Pro Bowlers they will be monsters of the ping pong table.

One thing to keep in mind is that there seems to be a changing of the guard at the QB position. Look at how many teams have subpar QB play this season, and how some of the big names aren't having great seasons. I think we are seeing a shift right now, and maybe picking at the top of the draft isn't the most important thing in the world, especially if the guys that are up there may not be worth that kind of scratch and hype. It's an interesting time, I mean especially since the wage scale was partly brought about to make picking a QB at 1 not a necessity anymore. This class may not have a superstar qb in it, but I think it's got got some depth that in the right setting can develop into quality.

All is not lost yet. Texans and Raiders play each other today, so 1 of those teams will get their 2nd win. Commies are currently ahead in their game. Lions are only down a few. Jags are up in their game. It might be a good day to get a win.

Oregon should be penalized points for those uniforms. Looks like Madden create-a-team gone terribly wrong.

Teams don't usually spend 1st round picks on rbs that are within sight of that magic number 30. Just doesn't happen, and all the wishing in the world won't change it. I think most fans are going to be disappointed to see him go. It's not the outcome any of us wanted. But, we've got some draft capital that we very much needed. Maybe we collect some more, and maybe we spend it wisely. I have less confidence about that last part happening. I sort of wonder if some of the motivation for wanting/expecting a 1st for him was a crazy idea that it could lead to a deal with the Saints for Payton. Just something to think about.

It's a fair question. Ultimately some team will be willing to roll those dice and will take him towards the top, if not at the top of the draft. I think where we differ on opinion is maybe more where that draft position should be. I don't think it's wise to take someone that may ultimately be very disadvantaged by size limitations at the next level at such a premium spot in the draft. I tend to think that historically that opinion holds water, but every year there are sure-fire prospects that can't miss, and bust, as well as later round gems that make it. I'm glad I don't have to take on that burden of risk myself.

His size is possibly an issue, and it could be an issue for his entire career. His growing days are pretty much over. The internet gives a range of anywhere from 5'11/185 up to 6'/195. For comparative purposes, Murray is ranged at 5'10 and anywhere from 194 to 207. Mayfield is 6'1/209. Wilson is listed at 5'11/206. Brees was listed at 6'/209. Just for fun, Tarkenton was considered small at 6'/190. Flutie was 5'10/181. So there is evidence that teams can win and be successful with undersized qbs, to limited effect. Wilson and Brees have won a Superbowl. Tarkenton is in the HOF. Maybe Flutie got a ring in his final years with the Pats? It's just that it seems to be a risk, and maybe it's a risk that you don't take at the top of the draft. Murray and Mayfield are the only names on that list that were taken very high, and they have had mixed success to this point. I think it's a risk I am more comfortable to see some other team take if Young is in play that high in the draft.

If I put anything on eggs other than salt/pepper/etc its salsa. Something with some heat, nothing mild that would pass for vegetable soup. If I'm feeling ambitious I would include some chorizo, mash up an avocado, grate some cheese, and wrap it all up in a tortilla.

Just let the season play out. There's probably not a Hollywood sports movie comeback here. There are historically very few in-season player trades. Most likely we will be active on the trade market in the draft when we have presumably a new coach in place. This is a lost season, and there isn't much value other than seeing what players might have the fortitude to stick out the tough times.

So there are other well-known instances of word getting out that a prospect will not play for team x if they are drafted. It has involved other positions than just QB, and to be fair, other sports as well. I think the talk is a little more prevalent among Panthers fans since that is a belief of what transpired with Andrew Luck and him staying in school.

Young does not have the size that typically makes it in the NFL. Flutie is the only 1 I can think of that meets the height/weight comparison. He had a pretty nice career. So maybe that would be best case scenario for his outlook?

I'd be very surprised if he is not just outright released, no matter whatever cap charge or depending on trade compensation.

Best spot for him would be something that has low expectations and would allow him the space to construct his usual turnaround plan. Wisconsin and Nebraska would not be low expectations programs, but Arizona State would. Especially if/when USC and UCLA depart, he would have a chance to have the tiptop of whatever the PAC-12 cobbled together. There are probably others that will open as well. I don't care to ever hear him again. His talk is meaningless.

I have zero doubt that Rhule would have an itchy hand watching this game and imagining the possibilities of what it might take to bring Wentz to Charlotte next season.

Not for the cost.

Well. Hey we are already only 4 wins away from matching the 2 previous win totals.

It might be safe to assume that the next cba bargain between players and owners would be 18 games and 2 preseason games in exchange for pot no longer being a no-no, especially if the winds of change prevail at the Federal level. Teams could play 2 neutral site games every season, no longer lose a home game, and it could be staged in other locales beyond London and Mexico City. It would logistically take a lot of work to pull off, but the headaches would probably be worth the boon of opening new markets like Asia to the game.

.They could maybe make a go of it with a 6 team league or so. A smaller version of NFL Europe. It wouldn't be easy though, as evident from the continuous failures that alternative leagues here have experienced. Ideally they would be able to use homegrown talent, but there is not enough. So there is the problem, teams are made up of has beens and never weres, and once the initial novelty wears off it's just poor quality sport with teams that have funny uniforms and odd names.

It is a long season. It's a marathon not a sprint. The troubling part is we are already sucking wind and have our hands on our knees. Except for Baker, but that's just because he is short and you can't really tell at a glance.

Next week's game should be must not watch tv.

I am a little surprised that Wilson has looked so awful early on. I expected better. Matty Nice has been declining for a while now. Maybe he will poop in his football pants again.

12 seems like a good number for us to hit before w start getting tired with all the excitement.