UnluckyforSome

Here is the list. Where does the market put him, again as a former #1 overall that has made the playoffs? Hurts is 10. Just a nudge over 50. Maybe around Mayfield. That puts him at 33per

I don't want to pay him anything. I want him gone.

I think the hard-headed steadfastness to not bring in any real competition for Young, or have anyone in the developmental pipeline, has boxed us in a bit on what will ultimately happen. We do have Superbowl-winning QB Kenny Pick-it waiting in the wings, so I guess that is something if it becomes a break glass emergency.

There's more to it than just that. Murray not only has an opportunity to take that job, but he also has a coach now that is widely-regarded as a QB-friendly coach. Tua no longer has to play outdoors in Buffalo, New England and New Jersey, and instead now has Tampa, and indoors in New Orleans, an indoor venue for home, and a real shot at winning that job as well.

I don't think he gets Dak money. I think he comes in under Lawrence at 55, but in that ballpark. 45-50 if I had to guess. It will not be some low-ball, prove it type deal. He's a former #1 overall and made the playoffs. We are not in a great situation with him

Unfortunately, I think we are already at that precipice this season. If he is even modestly successful this year, he's getting a new contract. I don't think it will require playoffs, I don't think it will even require double digit wins. Think about how it could be spun if we end up with just 7 wins. That's only 1 less win than last year, against a 1st place schedule too. So, it sets up a problem, do you want to lose out, and get a fresh start? Or stay the course and reward Young with 50 million? Next year has some big QB prospects. I just kind of feel there are certain forces in the organization that are itching to crown our new franchise QB. Should be an interesting year.

Little bit of a false equivalency as they are getting paid a substantial amount of money from their former teams to just not play for them any longer. But yes, there were most certainly better options for backups than who we settled on.

"Carolina can win with complementary football if the offense continues to trend in the right direction." Absolutely true. Neither side of the ball will be standout and we will need both to meet some expectations if we want it to be a successful season. This shouldn't be a controversial take. The unfortunate part is there are always unknowns and variables that can stack up to derail games and entire seasons. I think a lot of media, outside of Rich Eisen so far, have been giving those chances of unknowns and variables a better than fair shot of being a negative factor to the Panthers. As an fyi, Eisen continues to promote the Panthers chances this season, but he also didn't abandon the Bengals last year when Burrow went down. So there's that.

Agreed. He is a fine rotational role player that we paid to be something of a difference maker.

Those 2 sacks will be hard to replace. Hope he gets better soon.

Could be worse. The early bye is not a help, nor is the extra preseason game. The road games can all potentially be difficult places to play.

The problem is where things might have become a competitive advantage, or when information was concealed or released to affect a particular outcome, by the seemingly intimate relationship between a "NFL Insider" reporter and the head coach for a NFL team. I don't know if there is ultimately much concern over 2 adults doing what many adults will do, regardless of their marriages. The more interesting part is what it could have resulted in for the games.

Absolutely. It can't be denied that they put in the effort that game. I'm sure it generated a bunch of positive momentum. How did we do in the next round anyway? I forget.

Renting a boat for a private outing on a lake, where they are the only 2 people on the boat, and she just happens to be 7 months pregnant, is really challenging to explain away. I mean that is just not a situation that a nearly full term mom-to-be puts herself into without her husband/partner/SO being there, even if it was just doing their "required duty."

Anything about either of the Superbowl appearances. There are no guarantees the team ever gets back to that game. The Jets won SB3, and have never returned. The Bills lost 4 in a row and have never been back. The Vikings have lost 4 and not made it back. Marino lost in his only Superbowl, but the prevailing opinion was he would get another shot. Never happened.

Speak of the underachieving devil. Front page on the ESPN NFL section. https://www.espn.com/nfl/

There is no reason why we couldn't start our own board, as the Falcons fans did when their official board closed down. It is obvious that nothing is going to change about this place, no matter how many complaints are made about it being left for scrap. Well, there is 1 change that will happen. When you show up here and there is nothing at all because the plug was finally pulled on it.

Come on down, Superbowl-winning qb Kenny Pick-it!

I am not into gambling, so take that into consideration. That said, Vegas is not in the habit of losing money. It happens from time to time, certainly. I do think it is telling that they are betting on Panthers finishing last in the South again, and taking a step back. Maybe it is disrespect, as I personally think the Falcons are destined to be last with an unsettled qb situation. Honestly though we are not too far from being in a similar boat. Not the same but similar.

BetMGM has 6.5 wins as the betting line for the upcoming season. Our rivals are at 8.5 (Bucs) and 7.5 (Falcons and Saints)

Yeah, Saints Report is still very active, and for Bucs, I go to JoeBucsFan and while it is not a freeform message board, every news story has a comment section. Way back in the Gruden era the team closed down their official board to update and revitalize it. It just stayed closed

Yes, but the board members that were still regulars made their own replacement board. It is very much alive. Supposedly they vet new folks, but I got in no problem when they launched it, so I doubt there is any internet sleuthing going on there. https://falcons.boards.net/

There are other outlets for sports talk these days. So, to a certain extent, this is a relic. It not being updated/maintained continues to keep it as a relic. Panthers Reddit requires you to be a certain type of fan, or you may not enjoy your experience. I don't come around as much as I did in the good old days. I take a long break after the season, will hang around for a bit at draft time, and then start to come back regularly sometime in preseason. The other sources for our division rivals are all worthwhile to visit, and are very much alive and kicking.

I would say we wouldn't get anything for him in a trade, but we found 1 team stupid enough to trade us a 4th for Mingo. I don't think they trade him though, barring an offer like that, but they won't pick up his option and just let him walk after year 4. Will he not be nearly 30 at that point anyway?

The 5th round picks, both of them, are skewing it favorably. Both those prospects were expected to go round 3 or 4 from what I've seen.