Carolina Cajun

Collins makes a huge mistake here. Unless they are gonna start using 6 lineman at one time, this is a complete waste because he'll never see the field. Oh well.

Only situation I can see would be to prevent players from working demanding they sign with a certain team. If a guy is a high draft pick m, but only wants,to play for the patriots, he could refuse to sign with anyone and then get his first round money after the draft. I think the nfl is being too hard on this kid in this case, he should be allowed in the supplemental draft.

Hey roger goodell? Where were Ya on this one buddy? You sure we're quick to put these small market team players in their place with hardy and Peterson (right or wrong), but let Raype Macdonald play every Sunday. Where was your crack squad of NFL investigators with this situation, or because it could hurt a premiere brand in the NFL you turned the other way...

I'm so glad someone knew who JonTron was.

This was why I was wondering what the rules would be about "extending" him imediately. Lets say they tell him, we'll sign you, and immediately "extend you" for 1 year (so instead of a 3 year deal, it's now a 4 year deal), with a big signing bonus and guaranteed money tied to the 4th year, in essense giving him a bigger payday. If that is a possibility, then things get even more interesting because if I can think of this as a random joe schmo, I'm sure most GM's have thought about this too. With that said though, I admittingly don't know all the rules with the CBA so I don't know whether or not that would even be allowed.

We just signed Brandon Wegher to the same contract that he would get and he actually has a history of actual police run ins and domestic abuse. If we don't sign him, it won't be because of JR, it will be because he chose another team over us. Let's let this situation play out.

The risk is that if he is somehow involved he goes from being "La'El Collins" to "Carolina Panthers Lineman, La'El Collins". Not saying it's right, but whatever team would sign him would forever be associated with him.

Not possible, big cat would never let us draft someone with that many character concerns.

True, but I'm interested to see what cam does without having our tackles giving free runs at him. If, IF our tackles give him protection this year, I believe we could see his best performance.

I'm not so so sure about cotchery, I think He very well may lose his spot if bersin or hill even come close to him in the preseason. His starting role is gone and no reason to keep a guy on the roster who is blocking our youth and will be gone next year anyway.

Exactly what I thought, but like you, I'm not sure about the rules

Considering the bust rate in the NFL lately for first Round OT's, guaranteed contract is important.

Here is my question. Let's say he's signed as a UDFA, is it possible to sign him then immediately "extend" him for 2 years for his contact length to be 5 years to give him a some semblance of a real first round contract?

I completely agree. The vitriol towards him started because he "blocked" the greatest practice squader in NFL history in Stephan Hill, then the punt returns came and he failed at that, but who didn't see it coming from a possession receiver asked to return freaking punts. I don't think he will make the team, but I sure as heck am not pulling against him. Hope if he doesn't make it here, he catches on somewhere.

I'm sooooo happy!!!

I said before, I love the pick, but hate the spot. I think we could have bent someone like the Saints, Jags, or Titans over so they could get the combine MVP in Breshad Perriman. If we had moved back into the top of the second round, we still get Shaq but we get another pick that we can bundle to move up to assure ourselves of Getting Jake Fisher who would be an amazing fit for us here. We still may move up, and if we end up with Shaq and Fisher in the first 2 rounds, I'll be very happy, but I'd be more sure if we had moved back a bit. That said, remember, last year it was said that KB was a 2nd round talent and we "reached" for him. It wasn't until we started seeing his physical tools and his real 40 time that we really took notice and then how he performed took all the doubt about where he "should" have been drafted out of the question. Also, understand, the drop from KB to Marquise lee was significant in the draft, the drop off from Devin Smith to Tyler Lockett IMO was not so huge, so thats why not reaching for a receiver was not necessarily smart move to me. BPA value just did not match any true position of need yesterday, on to a new day.

I do hate the Devon smith pick, but if he is our pick, by Friday morning I'll be all on board, he would be one of us then.

I'm not really happy with a smith pick because I don't like to get a guy in the first round who I think is mostly a gimmick speedster and special teams guy. Shane Ray or one of the available OT's woulda been preferred.

Thank god David Newton isn't the gm.

If we don't go RB early (Gurley or Gordon), I want John Crockett Late. He's not the most sure handed receiver, but I really think he can come in and do what Alfred Morris does for Washington. hard runner, doesn't go down easily, just a hard nosed guy, then sub him out on 3rd downs with Fozzy and you got a decent post-stewart tandem.

Only thing I'll say in regards to this is I hope hardy realizes how much he fuged up and threw his team mates in carolina into a bad situation because he put himself in a stupid situation. We embraced his Kraken identity as a fanbase, but I don't think other teams in the NFL will take to it as well as we did.

After seeing what they did to Dez, or atleast the claims Dez made about them withholding information they knew about before they drafted him, he probably wants nothing to do with them given the history he has. Me thinks there are more skeletons in his closet than the ones we know about.

Honestly, I would love to see him succeed in the NFL, it's not his fault the Media turns him into a circus. Fact is, he is a very hard worker and a good leader, his issue is that he's just not a good QB. Honestly, it's MUUUCH easier for me to watch someone like Manziel bomb out than The Golden Calf of Bristol because atleast it's easy to pull for a person who's a good person. Aside from the fact that the NFL will benefit from the Jersey sales, as much as people hate it, Goodell is celebrating because this can take some of the eye off of the Ray Rice, Greg Hardy, Ray Macdonald, and Adrien Peterson situations. If you don't think Goodell wants a "golden boy" to point to to show off his league after the crap that happened last year, you're crazy.