Carolina Cajun

this is the worst moment in panthers history, season is over again, bring back richardson, sacrifice bryce to the gods for arch manning...and put the shield back at midfield.

we forced a punt, season saved, back to the super bowl, 17-0, evero is new god, Bryce young will save the universe and the logo can go back at the 50

Season over, time to move to offseason chat, might as well move the team. put the shield back at midfield and never use black jerseys again.

You can tell the list is compete dogshit when our RB group, ya know, THE ONLY ONE in the NFL with TWO 1000 yard rushers ranks 28th. Im not saying we deserve a ton of respect or anything, but dude, anyone with a functional brain can see that position group is top 10 at least.

I'd give him a shot. Who knows, so why not. Remembr Frankie luvu was a special teams cast-off from the jets, turned out to be somethin special. Can't hurt to see, if not, no harm no foul.

I do think Windmon is a decent depth piece for our LB crew, he flashed some promise down the stretch and do think he can contribute. That said, thats just a 3rd LBer (prlly should be 4th). Without Cherilus, definitely should be looking to improve that position, but we wont have much of an option till the other teams cuts start coming through.

to me, I think he'll be like OBJ. this season we wont have consistent crazy numbers, but we'll have plays EVERY GAME that make us go "WTF is that". he has all the ability, just will take time to put it together

I agree, lemme rephrase, I'd be ok with Zane if Wright looks like trash and we for some reason decide to not go with the rookie. The rookie is the answer IMO, just roll with him and give him a chance to grow, but if FOR WHATEVER reason, Zane imo is about the same as Wright and atleast showed some promise when he did kick for us a few years back (He was Special Teams player of the week and didnt have a noodle leg).

For the past few years it hasnt been an issue but mostly because we were so bad as a team it didnt matter very much. I do think itll be a bit different this year. I dont know if we'll make the playoffs, but I do think/hope we'll be far more competitive.

My belief is he just doesnt have the leg. Yea, hes accurate, but a lot of kickers could be accurate if never asked to kick 50+ yard field goals. Because of that, it meant we had to move on. If Wright and Fitzgerald struggle, I'd actually be ok bringing Zane Gonzalez back. Hes not on a roster and when he was healthy, he was a pretty reliable kicker for us.

Generally agree, but this is an outlier not a norm, a majority of the pundits still put us as the dregs of the NFL. It feels more like 2003 or 2015 preseason (When we were viewed as a meh..might be alright, prlly will suck predictions) than it does 2004 or 2016 (where the media was scraping the zipper so erect thinking we were DEFINITELY playoff and possibly superbowl bound again). That said, just generally speaking, Im getting a good vibe from this team, they seem to be coming together, the leadership it looking stronger and it seems like theres some direction, but all of that is worthless if we dont get on field results.

Woah!....nice to see Kelvin Benjamin is getting back in shape...

Not if you are the bungels, they have seriously fuged this situation up as well as the trey Hendrickson thing.

Biiiiiig eyeroll on this. First, Look at historical stats of the most recent historical great DBs. I plucked 3, Revis, Sherman, and Norman (cuzz he was our guy). Combined post age 30, there are TWO pro bowls between those 3 and wanna get this...ZERO seasons with 16 games started. ALL missed time. It is RARE that Corners survive that long in the NFL and its about time we started recognizing this fact. Jaycee is a good bet because it hasnt been anything seriously devastating injury wise, and with his sample size he could and should be an incredible piece for the panthers through age 30. Jaire kinda flops on the other side, hes 28...so hes under 30, but he wants his payday before it comes up, hes also been injury prone lately. Bulk of the contract will be on opposite side of 30. Will both of these guys help us be better in 2026? SURE! No doubt, but the question is, will these guys help us past 2026...not sure. The investment isnt worth the risk, nor would the ROI be anywhere close to worth it. Neither guy is moving us from a 6-8 win team to a 8-10 team, period. My point is we're in this state a 6-8 win team IMO and he projects us as a 4-6 win team. EVEN if we think Jaire or Ramsey will make us a 6-8 win team, it in NO WAY is worth the money or capital to move that much just to suck kinda less.

I kinda skimmed the video, I do kinda believe 28 is preeeettty low for the panthers, I mean, Basically saying we're the 5th worst team in the league when we were the 8th last year and meanwhile having an upgraded roster (and an easier schedule) almost top to bottom is kinda a meh take. Now us between 22-26, I can see it, but this is a roster with more defensive talent, more offensive depth, and more seasoned coaching, base-line I'd say is for us to essentially stay where we were last year.

I think if he stays healthy, he'll be a stretch gadget guy. If teams are sitting on short and intermediate routes, throw horn out there for a series or 2 to run fly routes, it'll only take bryce hitting on one to loosen the defense some.

I do think we'll see a pretty substantive jump in the quality of our defense this year, but it comes from multiple things. That front line is gonna be pretty impressive IMO with healthy brown, Bobby Brown, and Tershawn Warton. thats gonna open space for our LB's and Moehrig dropping into the box helping stuff the run. Evero CAN have a very successful defense, he has to have the pieces and I do think he has the pieces he needed. Lets see what his scheme cooks up with quality pieces and not just UDFAs and random JAGS.

I miss PanthersUnited

welp, stand corrected, I wasnt sure, looked it up on google and it said joe was. Poo me away!

Agree, I've been impressed with Morgan thus far in his stint as GM. Last year, overhaul O-line, fix the middle of the line and started getting pieces to go around Bryce. I like last years draft a lot honestly. XL has shown potential, JT Sanders looked good as a rookie TE, Trev Wallace looked decent and Chau Smith Wade looked like a great value pick as well as snagging Jalen Coker UDFA. This year, I think he was playin games, might have even been sneaking some of the Tet sandbagging talk, then boosting Jalon walker, I think he wanted Tet to fall and I think he kinda knew that the the difference between "top" edge rushers and guys we got was FAR smaller than the difference between Tet to 2nd round recievers. He took Value, then doubled up on a strength of the draft WHERE the strength was highest, edge on day 2. Very well navigated on his part IMO.

why not, just kinda depth at this point. Main positive I think really is that Jaycee showed that Joe kinda showed and tutored them as to what it takes to being a pro and focus on the game.

theres sandbagging every draft, but after the pick I felt better and really felt like we tried to play some teams. I remember in december/november he was like a #3/#4 overall pick. I think teams were sandbagging hard on him. In Fairness, I think teams were also (probably us too) sandbagging Mason Graham. Teams took the bait on Tet. I had a feeling something was up when we did a personal visit with him. didnt seem like our MO. That said, I will die on the hill that IMO, we were prepared to trade back, the idea was if Ashton Jeanty fell, and I still think the Cowboys sell their soul for #8 if he was there, he wasnt so they stayed pat. Legit all of this falls in line with the rumors.

Well, not for shedeur, but Giants did what I thought. I absolutely think Dart would have been there in the second, moved up for 5th year option

Dont be shocked if one of Browns, Giants, or MAYBE saints, Raiders, or Jets could move up into the end of the first, less for the value, but for the 5th year option, same reason that we did.

Completely agree. I don't hate the defensive players, but the difference between shear Stewart and a middle second rounder isn't much to me but difference between tmac a mid 2nd receiver is massive