PleaseCutStewart

It is going to take way more than that to go to #1. It would probably take our 1st and 2nd (39) this year and a 1st in 2024 and 2025 before we are even listened to.

Don't like any of those trade scenarios. If we do trade, I say we go for 5 if Stroud (or Young) falls and that way it won't cost us an arm and a leg. No way I am trading to #1 and I think it will still take a lot to get #3 from the Cardinals.

Chiefs made that look easy. Not good if KC can run and throw it at will against them

1 QB will cost us about 6 mill to keep. The other QB would cost us a 1st rounder to get. Yeah, I'd rather have the QB we can get for cheap and not give up a 1st for a QB that will be useless once his speed deteriorates

Yep, 1 is way more mobile than the other one. Otherwise, they are pretty much the same passer. That being said, Fields is already showing signs of not being able to stay healthy because he runs the ball 15+ times a game. Not saying Darnold is great, but Fields is not the answer at QB and the fact that people want us to give up our 1st rounder (or more) for him is just moronic.

Take away the Saints outlier and it's about 62% And if completion percentage is how we are going to judge QBs, then yikes. You want to know who had a good completion percentage last year? Matt Ryan. The same Matt Ryan that got benched twice for Sam Ehlinger and Nick Foles... The stats I liked a lot more. Only 3 INTs in 6 games (only 1 if you ignore the Saints stinker). Huge jump in career best in Yards/Att, Yards/Completion, TD%, INT%, and QB Rating. I could care less about your completion percentage if you are just throwing check downs on 2nd/3rd and long. Also keep in mind his passing stats don't include any games with CMC, who will make any QB look a lot better than they are.

The Darnold that threw for 350 yards and kept us in the game when our trash corners were getting beat like a drum by Mike Evans? I'll take that Sam every day of the week. Just weird to say the Saints game and the Tampa game are the real Darnold when both were so vastly different for him...

I'm pretty sure Fields had multiple games where he threw for under 100 yards. Yet the forum seems to think he is the next Tom Brady... Bad games happen. He was one of the only reasons we had a chance to win the Bucs game the week before...

Well said and completely agree. Yes, he had a stinker for the Saints game (lets face it - I knew the team would look bad after the demoralizing loss to Tampa to miss the playoffs and somehow the Saints still outsucked us), but the dude pretty much did everything we could ask of any non-top 10 QB the other 5 games he played. And that's with an absolute moron calling plays for us on offense. I would be curious to see how Sam would look with an injury-free offseason with a competent OC/coach and an upgrade at skill position players (either a TE or possession WR to complement DJ). Sam is not a great QB, but I think he can be solid while we (hopefully) draft our QB and give him a yearish to develop

Any chance we can get Winston for super cheap? I'd take a chance on him as a bridge QB until whoever we (hopefully) draft is ready.

Definitely less dysfunctional that the last 4 years. But with Tepper at the helm, I will assume we will be dysfunctional until he decides to sell.

Glad he gets to go to a team that isn't completely dysfunctional like our franchise. GL to Wilks

Random stat with the middle of the field passes. My counter argument to that is why throw it down the middle of the field when you can just throw it over the top against CJ & Taylor... I think our defense didn't look any better the back half of the schedule,which is surprising since our offense was actually somewhat competent and not a trainwreck like the first half of the year.

Because they are the Raiders... When was the last time that franchise made a smart decision? Like the 90s? The Raiders want to make Carr the scapegoat for why they sucked last year when he was far from the reason. There is a reason that many of his teammates were pissed off when he was benched the last 2 games of the year. Again, I want us to get our franchise QB in the draft, but Carr is far from a bridge QB in my opinion. I really hope he doesn't go to a team in our division.

We also don't have a terrible oline and one of the worst defenses in the NFL like the Raiders do. And pretty sure Waller and Renfrow were hurt a good half of the year. I don't get the hate for Carr. Yes, I'd rather draft our QB than go after a FA, but Carr is better than a bridge QB IMO. I'm pretty sure I remember seeing that he has the most game winning drives and 4th quarter comebacks in the NFL since 2015, which gives you an idea of how terrible their defense has been since 2015. It's not his fault he played for probably the most dysfunctional NFL team for his entire career so far that has made countless terrible draft picks and many terrible FA signings.

I wouldn't say height is a complete non-issue. It's tough for the smaller QBs to not have their passes batted down by linemen at the LOS on shorter routes. Mechanics can help negate that issue some (higher release point when throwing), but being 5'11" in the pocket vs. 6'3" in the pocket makes quite the difference. Think about how many passes Baker had deflected at the line and he has about 2 inches on Bryce.

If stroud goes 1, then I say pass on the rest unless they fall to #9. That being said, I'm apparently 1 of the few big in stroud

Let someone else trade up to #1. Our goal should be trade to #3 if we think Stroud is taken 4th or trade to #5 if we think the Colts will draft Levis. To get to #1 from where we are, we are possibly looking at having to give up our 1st round pick this year, 2nd round (39) this year, SF 2nd rounder, 1st round pick next year, and 1st round pick in 2025. Just not worth it IMO. To get to #5, I think we could get away with trading #9 and next year's 1st (or #9 and #39), depending on how many offers Seattle gets. #3 would probably take something like #9, #39, SF 2nd rounder, and SF 3rd round (or #9, next year's 1st, SF 2nd rounder, SF 3rd round). I think with several teams fighting 2 or 3 QBs, you could see some bidding wars to move up. The Saints win moving us back from #7 to #9 probably equals the cost of having to give away the SF 2nd rounder in any trade up. If we do trade, we absolutely cannot screw the pick up.

Can we file a lawsuit against Rhule for him being a fraud of a coach...

The touch Stroud has on his passes and the anticipation he is able to throw his passes with sets him far apart from Fields as a passer. I don't think there is a better QB in this draft that can throw the intermediate passes, particularly the out and corner routes, than Stroud. I still remember that Utah bowl game last year and the throws he made in that game were very impressive. Yes, his WRs have been elite the past 2 years, but he was still throwing dimes to his receivers and releasing the ball right as his receivers were making their cuts.

Agreed we have no DE talent, but if you want to give Burns the highest contract ever for a DE (which I'm sure is something our dumbshit franchise would do), then I'm guessing your last name must be Hurney

If we aren't trading Burns for 2 1sts and a 2nd, then I don't think our dumbass front office will trade him for anything

This x100... I think the only sure fire stud at QB next year is Caleb Williams. Haven't seen enough of Penix (Pac 12 defenses are garbage) and saw a lot out of Drake Maye in the back half of the season that makes me worry about his NFL success. Not saying we should mortgage the future for a QB this draft, but we will be saying the same thing about the 2024 draft - "this class of QBs is overrated, wait until next year". Rinse and repeat for 20 years and you are stuck with a cycle of QBs including Teddy 2 Gloves, Sam, Baker, etc. If the Colts take Levis instead of Stroud, you absolutely trade up and get Stroud.

Somebody gets it. In all honesty, what it is going to take is everybody turning off their tvs, not buying NFL merchandise, not going to bars during NFL games, etc. and hurt them in the wallet. TV ratings go down = less competition for ad time during NFL games. Less merchandise being bought = loss of revenue for NFL. Lower TV ratings = networks paying less for NFL rights. Unfortunately it will take all of us from all of the fanbases that don't get the "questionable" calls in our favor to just boycott spending a second of attention or a nickel on NFL. And this is something that will never happen. I've just invested much less time and money into sports the past few years and I am honestly a happier person for it. Sure, I wish the Panthers and other teams I root for were better, but I'll live if they suck and probably get a good laugh at them behind completely inept franchises.

This x100 I promise you the refs don't do a do-over if the Chiefs get a 1st down or more there. Again, they have wanted to push this narrative of Mahomes winning a Superbowl on a bum ankle like he is Michael Jordan reincarnate...