BlazeCarolina

It has sent me back to lurk only mode. I haven't seen this place this toxic in a long while.

He had the prerequisites. At the time of the draft, a lot of people considered him the top choice, and if not, the clear #2 choice. Claiming he wasn't qualified when he has the accolades he has, and has won at every level except the NFL (he wasn't there yet, no one can see the future. People around here like to look back with 20/20) is a ridiculous take in my opinion.

Just because it isn't currently working out doesn't mean you get to retroactively discredit the kid's resume.

Doesn't have the prerequisite talent level. That's funny.

With as many people here that seem to agree with you, in a strange way, I hope you are right. Going to be hard for you guys to root for this team if they do manage to turn it around since you all seem to hate Bryce and think we are all garbage.

Bryce wouldn't have been my choice, but I think this board is being overly harsh as well. I don't think he has been the worst QB over the last three seasons, but that is a hard metric to track. It's not like we as a team have been an easy place to play. We have seen a few QBs leave here and instantly become better. There's a reason for that.

I didn't say he was good. I just said there was a lot of blame to go around and the sky is not falling yet.

People have tanked the alleged victim's business reviews. Classy.

PFF had him rated as like #9 for QBs. I didn't bother posting it for all the flack I was taking for being positive/optimistic after the game.

I think his opinion shifted after seeing us perform in the preseason, but I can only speculate. By a lot of accounts, we got good value for the oldest WR in the league on a 1 year rental. You probably would have complained as well if we got nothing and father time won this season or he walked next year and we got no return. At least we got something. Everyone won a bit here.

We don't know what is going on behind the scenes, so all I can do is speculate. Maybe the raise was to try to keep him happy as he was disgruntled with our success? No way for me to know. He wasn't the answer for the future, but he was good for us while he was here. I don't think we hurt anything by giving him a pay bump and sending a message to the team that he is model behavior and it gets rewarded.

Thielen was speaking highly of Bryce. He said that was one of the reasons he came back here. The fan base is the ones imploding on him. I feel Thielen's opinion probably shifted after seeing how we performed in the preseason, though. These are two completely different situations. People are criticizing without offering their solution. Would you have wanted us to draft a QB high and cast doubt on Bryce before the season opener? It's not as easy as you think to balance all this.

I think you just like to follow me around and hate on whatever I say. At least engage in the conversation. What would you have rather us done with the Thielen situation given he clearly wanted to go home?

It is good to do right by your players. Word travels. Would you rather keep him here against his will and have him leave later for nothing? I wouldn't think Thielen would sand bag it out of spite, but he might. This isn't Madden. You have to treat people as people and give them some respect.

Thielen wanted to go home. We did the right thing in letting him go. He was good to us, so we were good to him.

I just don't look at it like that. I look at the moment individually. How optimistic I am about the roster, staff, all that jazz. If you are talking about success over a large window of time, I absolutely get that argument. I just don't view it that way, because I don't think they are linked that way. More of an "any given Sunday" type, I guess.

I feel like with a guy like TMac, separation isn't as big of a deal. He is usually the bigger man, and can just use his body to box them out. I don't care how he gets the job done, as long as he does. Dude has some rare hands. Granted, I only watch Panthers ball, so I don't see a lot of elite players.

My memory isn't the greatest admittedly, but wasn't he overpaying dudes too? I feel like we were complaining about Hurney plenty when he was here.

I had a different perception because I was a lot younger, but the Chris Weinke days stick out to me as being the worst. I remember destroying a signed Chris Weinke ball I had as a kid with a buddy of mine and yelling Chris Weinke sucks Weinke.

I can't believe it is so bad in here you are yearnin' for a Hurnin'.

XL certainly isn't looking good, but TMac was exciting. It's his FIRST game. I feel y'all are being way too harsh right now.

I have been a fan a long time. I know how bad we can be. I feel like this wasn't even that bad. Y'all got me thinkin' I am delusional.

Probably a rule worthy of adopting. This is rough.

Maybe in the first round. I don't think we can build a roster around 1 solid pick a year. He had his fair share of issues outside of the first.

I feel like I have amnesia. I don't remember it being THIS bad. We knew this was possible. We talked about it being sink or sim for Bryce. Now that he isn't struggling, the sky is falling? There weren't many Panthers today who DIDN'T struggle.