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Jason Peter, Rashard Anderson, Bruce Nelson, Dan Morgan, Evan Mathis, Jeff Otah, Amini Silatolu... it's unfortunately not an uncommon tale around these parts.

And Tepper thought Rhule was a good idea, which cancels out pretty much everything else. Dude should just get out of the way.

Well, if Tepper likes him then it seems clear the football people should avoid him.

Or draft himself.

Exactly. Anyone who has any kind of expectation is setting themselves up for disappointment.

Campbell acknowledging that they stayed in nickel even when Carolina was going 2-TE was confirmation of the head-scratching decisions they made throughout the game. Carolina's TEs are worthless in the passing game, and they've been feasting at times on the ground, so why not make Darnold and the TEs beat them through the air? Whatever though, Carolina absolutely rolled them.

I'm not saying that I disagree with the overall sentiment, as you can't just drop every player that makes a mistake, but this thread will not hold up if he misses another kick in another imporrtant situation.

On top of good OL play, that was some awful LB play as well. Those guys asked to be blocked and the OL was happy to oblige.

The problem with this is that great, 'perfect' if you will since that's usually how the saying goes, is absolutely the goal in the NFL - Super Bowl win = the perfect outcome. Good enough is how we get a decade each of Fox and Ron, and being satisfied with good enough turns teams into perennial also-rans. I'm not saying that Wilks is not a good coach and/or leader. Rather, if the team braintrust (and not just Tepper, because he seems a football idiot) believe another candidate can achieve that perfect based on actual NFL-level expertise and analysis, then that is what is needed.

But it's working and it's Mayfield doing it. No one is saying he's suddenly an MVP, but he changed teams and suddenly went from worst in the NFL to Teddy-level comptence. Interesting to see.

The depth of Wilson's suckitude is a contender for surprise of the season IMO.

2 years, 2 major injuries... his fault or not, the label fits thus far. Sorry man.

Bold to assume that Sam might have been looking better under Rhule after last season.

Watch/remember Smitty escaping from half of the Texans defense for a TD in 2007 and please reconsider your position.

The chill... you guys are funny.

Shades of Smitty breaking his arm in 09, or TD hit by Harper in 15.

The 6 million dollar man right there.

Panthers kickers wearing #4 and kicking it off out of bounds... For the record I love me some Kasay. Just a little gallows humor.

The live in Detroit and play in GB and Chicago, among others. They'll be fine.

Been half a decade of this 'quality fell off' crap with the team and several years with Tepper to boot, and nostalgia eating at a restaurant doesn't cost hundreds of dollars, if not a commitment of thousands, and several hours a weekend for 4 months. You're agreeing with me even if you don't realize it.

Not at all the same since the whole premise is around spending time and money on poor product 'just because' and it costs nothing to follow along as you note, but I'll play along anyway - how else would one know if said restaurant actually made improvements and was worth trying again?

I said this in another thread but many were up in arms about the Charles Johnson contract years ago. He was a more.complete player, with pass-rushing abilities a step or two below Burns but wayyyy better run defense.

Would you keep going back to a restaurant with crappy food solely because it's 'local'? No? Same premise.

No one has said Burns is below replacement level or mediocre, insinuating that he's a run of the mill player - these comments are ridiculous. What has been said is that what he does and doesn't bring to the table is worth risking for a haul of draft picks that can yield even more overall talent alongside avoidance of a massive salary that could provide for even more talent, particularly since the Rams are likely to be mediocre or worse in coming years. The hyperbole and nonsensical judgments are silly.

Exactly, and while Burns is good he's not an irreplaceable game-changer. The last time this discussion came up at the DE position, I daresay plenty of people were angry about the Charles Johnson contract, and while he wasn't the supreme athlete Burns is he was a more complete player who could dominate against the run as well as rush the passer. Burns has yet to match Johnson's 11.5 sacks in 2010 on a defense that didn't play with many leads...