KSpan

What a god-awful response.

Cam had 485 yards total passing and rushing vs Green Bay, career start #2. Just another level entirely.

Am I seeing that statline right? 8/10 for 22 yards?

Don't get me wrong - this is not an excuse. However, to state an extreme example illustrating the point, dropping into KC is a very different situation than Carolina. IMO Bryce was always going to cap out at Teddy-lite IMO in the best of all cases. It's just a hypothetical.

I've always been low on Bryce, but it is completely fair IMO to wonder if he'd be closer to Teddy (as one example) than where he is if he was in a better situation. Not an excuse for his poor play of course, but there is always a 'nurture' aspect to it.

Yup. Dude thought he was going to waltz in and outsmart the league. Remember him crowing about the Rhule hire and, as one example, all the talk of the sport science stuff, and then we just never heard any more about it because he realized every other team was already doing it?

Yes. Yes he did.

Reich was an atrocious hire from the start, so while no one predicted that big of a flameout from the team the failure itself is unsurprising. For that reason I don't really blame Reich either; never should have been hired in the first place. Now Rhule... Rhule shouldn't have been hired either but that dude was (is) a blowhard. I absolutely blame him for trying to turn Carolina into a college program.

For teams that had been completely overhauled like Carolina was? Absolutely.

Option 3: just chill out and accept the reality as it is. See what happens, recognize the crappy reality but still hope for the best, and don't sweat it. Controversial as it's seemingly been, this has been my approach for years now.

All fair, and to use your foundation my point is/was that the staff being amenable to losing any progress at all in this manner given the circumstances is unfortunate.

Because 1 of them isn't available the other 4 can't work together? Nah. It wasn't just the OL though - not playing the starters at all appeared to be a mistake from the start and yesterday's performance sure supports that opinion. Doesn't matter at this point though. The bar has been set and we'll see if Canales can get the trendline pointing up from here.

He was under contract and not allowed to leave. Whether he wanted to or not may have been irrelevant

If only there had been an opportunity for the starters to play together and work those kinks out before today. Something that happened *before* the season... a preseason, if you will, where the intent is for players to develop rapport on the field and familiarize with the scheme.

Oh there were those for us that did. However, we were derided for being 'haters'. Lolz.

My comment is obviously somewhat tongue in cheek, but some commentary around it and this article was... entertaining. https://www.panthers.com/news/jonathan-mingo-wanted-the-truth-he-went-to-the-right-place-steve-smith "The second-year wideout has looked much sharper working with the ones in training camp and shows moments resembling savvy. Wednesday, it was making a play during a scramble drill, the kind of play that requires instincts and instruction. It's perhaps a play he doesn't make a year ago, and coach Dave Canales visibly brightened when asked about it."

But I was told he transformed with Smitty this past offseason.